I’m using a FP6 and I had some major problems with some apps, especially the banking apps and by company apps (Microsoft, Okta). I’ve been trying to find solutions online for the best of the past week, and then I finally came across THIS post from @sent. I can’t reply there, but I wanted everyone to know that that is how I fixed about 6 apps. Apparently due to “security concerns” a bunch of apps require to track you now so the fix was to enable Google ID, install the app, and then disable the ID, and now it all magically works.
Leaving this here because I spend at least 6 hours with support from various businesses when the fix was a 5 second thing and I couldn’t find this until I looked for a specific fix for Microsoft Authenticator. @sent I owe you my mental health, you’re awesome. THANK YOU!
I switched to Ente Authenticator and it worked as a solid replacement for Google Auth, for personal and work use. it doesn’t care if the phone is “secure”.
This is going to become a problem again this fall when the latest Android only allows “authorized” devices to install apps from “authorized devs”. Our phones are not authorized devices and the conclusion is, they won’t be able to install anything from the play store.
I’m using Proton Authenticator personally, but my company forces me to have Microsoft for their logins and we’re in a constant fight over it. The guide however fixed all the apps I had issues with, not just Microsoft. I heard good things about Ente nonetheless.
Yes. ‘Device Registration’ basically creates a Google ID for you. The first thing I did when I got the phone was to turn that off, and I had no issues installing any app except for like 5 that were all either banking apps or work apps because most apps ask for an account or they don’t really care who you are at the end of the day, so it makes no sense to force you into the Google ID.
Turning OFF device registration will make most apps unusable because they need this ID to send notifications i.e. “cloud/push” notifications.
Meaning that if you turn it off, you will not receive messages from your messaging app other than SMS, you will not be able to log in to your bank app, etc.
Open source apps will work fine, and some of them might even receive notifications because they use another standard though in practice they do not exist today.
That is why the feature is turned ON by default. And yes this is a major problem because even without an associated google account, that means all your notifications and their content is going through google servers, maybe not even encrypted, I would not be surprised that they can read all our whatsapp messages, anyway whatsapp already have them as well…
Murena cannot do anything because app developers are the one choosing to rely on google servers regarding notifications.
The only thing we can do is inform the European commission that there is another monopoly there, as there is one with app stores or messaging apps or streaming platforms.
Look, when I opened the phone, the first thing I did was to turn that off. I installed all apps without any problems and I can tell you that I still have the setting off and everything works just fine. So the option either doesn’t work, and you are right … or you are wrong and maybe you should try it out?
I do agree to everything you say in terms of the association and the trial of data through google, and defo there should be alternatives.
You are right and I also witnessed the same in the past. As micro G states clearly that Google Identification is needed for google we can assume that the ID is still present and google cloud notification server can still link it to your device. So if the switch is toggled at least once then you will receive notification for some time regardless of whether it is then switched off. Meaning that yes, most notifications are going through google servers that will easily identify you personally beyond the smartphone Id it has stored for your device.
Murena Calendar and SMS notifications will not go through google cloud notifications , but that is only a slight relief ^^.
Let’s hope that signal and WhatsApp become soon interoperable as the European law made this possible.
This might be the right thread for me for 2 issues I have with 2 apps. But apology if this is not the right thread for this matter.
First, the context: I received my FP6 2 days ago, replacing my FP3 (resting in peace after a 6-year loyal service). Most of my apps are now reinstalled (through Aurora Store, not All Lounge; but this another story). Except 2: Srava and Last War: Survival Game.
Actually, Strava is installed but it can’t connect to my account. Email address is recognized but once the 6-digit code (received on my email account) is set I have this display: the 6 fields for the code switch in red and a button “Send a new code” pops up
The second app causing me concern is the game Last War: Survival. Here, the upload got frozen after some time. No message pops up, no warning, nothing. Screen eventually turns black (but not locked). Any thought?
Thanks a lot for your answers and support. Some screenshots would help as I can’t fully figure out all explanation in sent’s other thread (as a French guy, some terms are sometimes not easy to translate )
Hey@MartyMcFly79 . I had this problem with the code, but in a different situation. For me, deleting the apps, restarting and reinstalling solved the problem, but it wasn’t related to the google ID, it was just a bad install or communication. I had the code issue with LinkedIn on my old phone for MONTHS until they found a weird bug, 5 support tickets later… Honestly, if a clean install doesn’t work, I’d try the ID one … you never know, but it would be weird if it works. Let us know though
NOTE! I haven’t personally tested the settings below!
I think you’re largely correct. I’m not entirely sure — I’m not an IT professional — but if you:
don’t add a Google Account to MicroG and have all Google Account settings set to OFF;
have “Google Device Registration” set to OFF and use a profile such as “Motorola Moto G (LineageOS 14.1)”;
carefully consider which apps truly need “Cloud Messaging” (push notifications) and unregister the rest of the apps in that list for push notifications;
carefully consider which apps truly need “Device Attestation” and unregister the rest of the apps;
turn all “Play Store services” OFF;
don’t allow a “Work Profile”;
turn all toggles under “Locations” OFF;
Then, I believe, Google cannot link your Murena phone (unless it’s a Moto G) to their data collection. In that case Google can only see the metadata of the relevant apps and communications. Beside that: I don’t know what that metadata contains, and Google doesn’t have anything to do with it either.
But I think Google cannot read the contents of messages and apps. With that metadata, Google could build a profile, but as long as you don’t link your phone to a Google account or Google service, it can only create an anonymous profile in principle, but again, Google should refrain from that too.
I’ve just applied the above settings on my phone as a test.
What I already have discovered is that I run into issues with app functionality if I totally disable “Cloud Messaging” and “Device Attestation” and set my “Google Device Registration profile” to “Emulator”.
I’ll report back in a few days with my experience using these settings.
And, please, correct me if I’m wrong. I’m just a Murena-user, no pro!
Cheers!
FYI I’ve a FP6 on /e/OS 3.5 for a couple of days, and I’ve no problem with Strava, nor any other of my 100s apps (except Polytopia). IMO your issue is not related to microG.
Please note that on Strava I don’t use this %£$@! “magic” link authentication crap (), but the regular login/password one. Maybe you should switch to it.
Thanks for your advice. For connection, Strava only let me the choice between the 6-digit code received by email (*****@yahoo.fr), Google account or Facebook account. No where this connection page proposes to use my password… And the app lets only 10 seconds to enter the 6-digit code. You have to be damn fast…
You should have the password option at the bottom of the digits screen, aftr enrering tour email. Thiese are screenshots I juste took on m’y Fairphone.
Weird, that’s a totally different screen from mine (I’m French as well, but my phone is set up in English)…
For your information, in order to take the screenshots I had to logout, and now I can’t login anymore on Strava on my Fairphone6/e/os : it says that my login/pass is incorrect (while they work fine on my desktop browser).
I deleted the app and reinstalled it but it didn’t change anything.
Looks definitely like an issue on Strava’s side… I’ll contact their support.
so the fix was to enable Google ID, install the app, and then disable the ID, and now it all magically works.
You’re welcome.
because most apps ask for an account or they don’t really care who you are at the end of the day, so it makes no sense to force you into the Google ID.
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), but the regular login/password one. Maybe you should switch to it.
