the official build for the Pixel 5 is based on AOSP 13, whcih reached end of life. Does that mean there will be no security patches anymore, hence it becomes increasingly insecure to use the official build?
If so it would be great if that would be communicated through the updater app of /e/os to give users a heads up.
And if one would switch to the community build, whcih to my understanding is based on AOSP 15, does that also work with banking apps and the like?
I guess itâs difficult for the devs to do an upgrade.
But A13 obsolescence was expected years ago, and upgrade to A14 or A15 could have been planned, to extend the end of life of the device.
Thatâs not a too big expectation for a phone that once was sold by Murena.
I maybe donât need the top security GrapheneOS can provide (but why not ? It doesnât harm).
But Iâm not comfortable with the poor security that is now facing my Pixel 5 under eOS.
This device with stock OS (A14) would be more secure, even if vendor patches have ended tooâŚ
As mentioned previously on this forum we are working on upgrading all A12 and A13 builds. Official builds require detailed development efforts as the upgrade has to happen OTA and should not result in data loss.
As revealed in the latest issue we had with the release of the A16 build of Oneplus nord avicii where the EU version of the device had some specific firmware which did not work correctly post the upgrade. Development and testing of OS OTA upgrade builds can be tricky.
Every week we do share dates and release information of upcoming builds here.
Will post when we have any updates for the Pixel 5
Itâs nice that old devices still get support but getting no security updates is a severe problem. A12-devices like the Gigaset GS290 havenât got security updates for more than a year which is just too long and makes the devices practically unusable. As PLA mentioned it doesnât come as a surprise - the end of support from Google is known before. If the OTA update is too difficult to implement in time, than at least a newer version for a fresh install should be offered.
Nevertheless thanks for still working on the upgrades to the e/os-developers.
It is nice that the Pixel 5 gets an update to /e/OS 4.0. But honestly, I do not get how one can allocate ressources on such a project instead of fixing the apparent security risk that comes with the A13 base of /e/ OS redfin. Upgrading to a still supported Android base MUST be the focus as security is the basis and not an afterthought.
If I had known that security is not taken seriously at Murena I would have opted for a different company and a different operating system. It is a shame.
Is it still safe to use a pixel 5 as daily driver when security updates for A13 are not available anymore ?
eOS is there to keep us from being spied on but to stay on A13 leaves us so vulnerable.
I was wondering the same thing. It feels like a tough trade-off between keeping the privacy benefits of /e/OS and staying on an older Android version. Has anyone here been daily driving the community A15 build and found it stable enough for banking apps and everyday use?
I am since a month - I decided to switch to community (A16) when 4.0 was still A13 (so i first updated to A13 4.0 official).
I didnât notice any problems and for me there is no drawback in stability to official versions - all apps work - but I only have one banking app - so a small test sample here.
I have only noticed 2 issues which rather are linked to A15+ versions in general (at least same issues on FP6 officialâŚ):
Android Auto is not working anymore - which worked really great for me latelyâŚ
Bliss launcher has some bugs especially when waking the phone - didnât had that before
I guess the problem for the team is to get an OTA update to A16 without data loss, there was no way for me to get it updated without going the whole way starting from partitioningâŚ
I am not an expert to start with, I might be a layman, but, and it is a big âbutâ(!) - do you all really believe so much in âsecurityâ provided by the official android?! I donât trust them f*ckers! Why wonât you stay on official google android then? I am not afraid of staying on older source android version if the need to be on custom OS. I am sorry my windows 7 acer died and I had to get a windows 10 and then 11 version⌠I switched off updates as each one slowed down my internet speed (most likely redirecting traffic through more and more controlling servers).
I think itâs the matter of choice and compromis. If you want private, custom OS stop moaning that you donât get those âsecurity patchesâ as quick as on âofficialâ android, or just go back to it and enjoy google invigilation!
Sorry, but I hate that sort of pathetic approach. Itâs either or! No offenceâŚ
