If Bliss is the only reason for using eOS you can use any other custom rom and installing Bliss from F-droid .
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I don’t understand it. The admin has something against me.
@Manoj please see. Other people don’t understand it too. Do you want that I quit here ? Than say it and I will leave
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Totally agree about Bliss. From what I’ve read here it seems (?) /e/ uses it as an easy or more familiar UI for people used to an iPhone? That seems laughable because most iPhone users spend $$$$$$$ on those phones, and are never, ever likely to switch to something else.
Totally disagree about the easy installer though… It was clunkier than Bliss IME.
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Hi @Bum112 , Many don’t like Bliss at all, or just various features of it. But many others do like it and use it all the time I expect. For myself, I quite like it but I don’t use it very often. Using Trebuchet at the moment and I’ve enjoyed using Kiss in the past for a minimal uncluttered configuration.
Whatever the rom and whatever the launcher it always takes a bit of time to get used to the settings and get them how you like.
There is a quick pull down option to get to the brightness slider; just enter quick in the settings search box.
Likewise, enter percent in the settings search box to be shown the setting for that. Not laborious.
Enjoy using eOS! 
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There is quite a bit about Bliss in this post from @gael
I am one of the “hard-core Android users” he refers to and I don’t like Bliss, because I am used to - and I like - ‘traditional’ Android launchers.
One of the great things about Android is that there is almost always a choice: if you don’t like something you can almost always find an alternative that you like better. So, after using OpenLauncher for a while, I ended up with Lawnchair 2 (from Aurora Store), because, unlike OpenLauncher, it allows you to to resize homescreen icons.
Personally, I think that /e/ OS should offer a choice of launchers, in the Setup Wizard, but @GaelDuval like Bliss, and he’s the man paying the wages 
I really wouldn’t let Bliss put you off using /e/ though. Install a different launcher, and enjoy a great OS!
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The only problem i see is that you can’t install the latest version of Trebuchet as far as i know, solution could be that /e/ contains Bliss and Trebuchet, and if you want another your free to install it.
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I like Bliss launcher and as someone who migrated myself and other family members from an iPhone, I very much appreciate its simplicity and familiarity.
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Mm, I did, actually. the Fairphone community has a fair amount of people who switched from Apple to Android because FP has a unique selling point, not offered by Apple.
I do like bliss since it is familiar, however for me it was simply too buggy. Sometimes, installing app updates would completely crash the layout and I had to start from scratch. So I see it’s potential but wish /e/ would get back to work on it. Many issues are yet to be addressed.
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I also had many similar frustrations and consequently questions about Bliss. Eventually, after trying a number of different launchers, I settled on Omega.
I understand trying to take advantage of the popularity of Apple to get a head start on marketing, but I agree with others that there should be a choice on installation or going with fruit or desserts. As someone who doesn’t like the ‘modern’ flat styles I also find the continued drive to make all the foundational apps even more bland and featureless questionable. But I’ve already switched to Omega launcher so I just try to ignore the other ‘developments’ because my phone is a tool, not my life.
I like Bliss but would like more flexibility in how and what I be changed to fit individual preferences.
Initiated already quite a while ago, but not outdeated at all - there is already a discussion on Bliss with lots of ideas…
Just check it out.
You’re totally right, I don’t understand the need to waste precious resources for the project when there is such a perfect launcher as Lawnchair 2 that would be way better as default launcher than this problematic Bliss
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The ‘I like Bliss - I hate Bliss’ argument has been a part of /e/ since day one. In general users who come from a pure Android background hate it while those who have used iOS like Bliss.
The fact that there are so many launchers available on Google Play Store or FDroid in itself points at the fact that one design will not please all.
The idea behind the Bliss design was to have an easy to understand launcher which had almost no learning curve to it.
Have you every tried explaining how to install apps to a non-tech person over a long distance call?
I have. I tried to explain how to install whatsapp to a relative of mine. This person has a MiUI stock ROM which means finding Google play store , searching for whatsapp, downloading and installing it.
Even after an almost hour long call he was not able to get it right. Finally had to ask his neighbor …a teenager to install it for him !
The concept of swiping down for notifications , swiping up to open folders showing apps can all be a bit confusing to some folks. That is where an all icons on the main screen design helps.
All said and done as I mentioned earlier there are a hundreds of Launchers available. Android allows you to install your own set of apps.
While the developers of the launcher continue their attempts to modify and improve the design to suit all tastes…we can always use a launcher which suits our needs.
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I solved the issue by installing LineageOS instead. Did you know that /e/ project is a fork of LineageOS? /e/ project is modified version of LineageOS.
Also, the LineageOS for my phone is Android 10, while /e/ Project is stuck on Android 8.
Maybe, but aspects of Bliss are not easy to understand. Especially the crap widgets on the left most screen the user can’t remove and the arrangmet of the app icons without allowing gaps. The user can despair about this. I think the /e/ project makes a lot of people not very happy with that very simple things.
Not really, ‘Q’ was released recently, at least for the Galaxy S9 and some others, which is an update to 10.
To the haters
- just use another launcher
- make constructive suggestions for improvement with explanations why the proposal makes sense
- don’t use /e/ at all or wait until it is finished
I also don’t use Bliss, but i think it is a simple to use launcher for non geeky people. It needs tweaking, but this is how it is with unfinished software.
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Already did. I don’t know, what exact Launcher LineageOS is using, but I think it is stock Android launcher. Unlike Bliss, it is not restrictive and doesn’t have weird features and default settings.
Already did in the original post.
Ok, but why then it is used as default launcher, if it is not finished? Isn’t smarter just to reuse exisying launchers? (Like Android stock launcher)
So your problem is more or less solved. Just continue using the repacement for Bliss or switch to LineageOS.
You did, which is very good. The sentence “To the haters” was not specifically addressed to you, I was a bit upset while reading thru the thread, sorry.
Because you need a point to start and /e/ is still beta.
I would say it is easier to develop an application from scratch than to adapt an existing application to your own ideas. Also, it makes sense to develope it “in house” and to grow with the code because the launcher is one of the core elements of /e/ for people that even don’t know that the launcher can be replaced, which seem the target audience for this launcher to me.
The important things are actually under the hood and not the launcher which can be replaced, but they are not seen at first glance.
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