Push Mail not accepted @murena.io

I’m not sure what this problem is about.

I assume you don’t get push notifications for received mails.

This is nothing your router is involved in. And there are no push notifications sent to the Murena cloud. The direction is the opposite one.

Where is the message “email not accepted” displayed?

Which app do you use for email?

Hello,
This is page 200+ from https://assets.avm.de/files/docs/fritzbox/fritzbox-7590/fritzbox-7590_man_en_GB.pdf, right?
In this case, it should be a simple SMTP client.

You can’t manage murena.io black/white lists.
However your problem may only be temporary because you exceeded the send rate limit.
Just disable the push service for a couple of days, then try again with a limited amount of emails.

I’m wondering : can you still manually send emails with the same account and a device behind your FRITZ!Box?

Thank you for your reply.

The message “email not accepted” is displayed on the fritz.box site when trying to send a test mail to my email-address XXXXXX@murena.io .
Mails from other email-addresses to XXXXX@murena.io work fine.

My settings in the fritzbox (system → push service) are the following:
E-mail adress: ‘XXXXX@murena.io’
Password: XXXX (the password for my Murena cloud)
User name: ‘XXXXX@murena.io’
SMTP-Server: mail.ecloud.global
Port: 587
“Yes” to “This server supports a secure connection (SSL).”

Because the error is not “Sending of an email message failed. Reason: authentication error.” or something similar, I assume the push service to be configured correct.

Thanks for your reply.

Yes, it is an issue about the push service described on page 200+ in the handbook. At
Push service mails are not sent | FRITZ!Box 7590 | AVM International
there are other error messages mentioned. I wounder is there a way to adjust my murena email-account the same way as described for Google or Yahoo?

I waited three days and still have the same results. Perhaps it will the best idea to set up a new account?

Murena email is, as far as I know, a pure SMTP MTA (Postfix) and wont accept 2FA like Yahoo, Google, etc

As the security mechanism for Murena is STARTTLS and not SSL, did you try to uncheck it in settings ?
For the reference: Configure Murena e-mail on /e/OS and other clients

It may be interesting to try with another account (Create a free Murena Cloud account). Please be aware that the invitation address you used for your current account cannot be re-used.
Later, you can delete this test account with https://murena.io/settings/user/drop_account.

I tried it with a test account and it worked perfectly :neutral_face:. I will use this second account as a work-around and hope it will last longer than the last time (that were 3 days).

Well, it’s strange… :confused:
One thing that can vary with time is the RSpamd engine. Could you please check the headers, especially the “X-Spam”, and possibly post them back here?
Did you check to send email with your former account, from a device behind the same public IP address?

I’m not sure what you need, so I’m sending you the hole source text of the mail:

Return-Path: <‘xxx@murena.io’>
Delivered-To: ‘xxx@murena.io’
Received: from mail2.ecloud.global
by mail2.ecloud.global with LMTP
id EO8eLS8JDWTeWQ8AgJ9Ytg
(envelope-from <‘xxx@murena.io’>)
for <‘xxx@murena.io’>; Sat, 11 Mar 2023 23:05:19 +0000
Received: from authenticated-user (mail2.ecloud.global [127.0.0.1])
(using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)
key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256)
(No client certificate requested)
by mail2.ecloud.global (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5C313720952
for <‘xxx@murena.io’>; Sat, 11 Mar 2023 23:05:19 +0000 (UTC)
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Message-Id: <‘953941.mmailer767268227@fritz.box’>
From: “Fritz!Box7590” <‘xxx@murena.io’>
To: <‘xxx@murena.io’>,
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2023 00:05:19 +0100
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Thats fine :slight_smile:
I wanted to make sure that it wasn’t the RSpamd anti-spam engine causing trouble (it can happen in time, because of the self-training).
As you send from the same address your messages won’t be intercepted by RSpamd (no X-SPAM header), so it’s not the case.

I do not understand this. The sending device was in both times the Fritz!Box 7590, so the IP should be the same, shouldn’t it?
The difference was the account: At my first account, the test-mail sent while configurating was “not accepted”. Is there a possibility to get details (e.g. like the header above) of this unsuccessfully sent Email out of the Fritz!Box?

I’m wondering if the couple (email address + source IP address) would get blacklisted.
It should be great to have Fritz!Box detailed log, but I couldn’t find anything about in docs. Maybe you can ask their support?

Yes, I will do so. Thanks for the support so long, I will report here.

I’ve found a log in my Fritz!Box:

“E-Mail-Zustellung gescheitert. SMTP-Server meldet: “554 5.7.1 Matched map: LOCAL_BL_FROM.””
(“Email forwarding failed. SMTP-server reports: “554 5.7.1 Matched map: LOCAL_BL_FROM””)

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Found this post:

I contacted helpdesk@murena.com and asked them for help.

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That’s the right move :slight_smile:
Please keep us posted!

Got a reply from Helpdesk@e.email:

Hello,
Our systems had blacklisted your address for breaching the ratelimit on the number of emails sent. I have removed you from the blacklist, which should allow you to send out email now.
XXXX
Murena Customer Support

Now I can send push mails again on my murena-account. Thank you for your help and assistance :smiley:.

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Nice!

Please be aware that rate-limit blacklist is an automated system; if you don’t want to get blacklisted again you may want to lower the amount of email sent…

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I have the same issue.I sent an email to helpdesk@murena.com - 24 hours later and no reply :frowning:

The email address for helpdesk is helpdesk@e.email

Thanks for your help Manoj :slightly_smiling_face: