A horrible feeling when (have to) stop using e/OS

I’ve been using e/OS for a good amount of time now, but for the last 3 month my phone (Samsung S9 Edge) has hardware issues. Last month, a friend gave me his old S21+ (stock firmware). Today I inserted my SIM in the S21+ to test… for approximately 30 minutes.

Don’t get me wrong, the phone itself looks great, but the rest feels just wrong. It feels horrible when you switch from a de-googled phone to stock-android. Maybe it It feels like you have entered a bank-vault, knowing that you are not allowed in and you know there is someone around the corner that will hit you on the head with a baseball-bat, but you have to pass him to exit… It’s a stupid analogy, I know, but I don’t know how to describe it proper. It just feel WRONG and that nags constantly in the back of your head.

I understand that if LineageOS does not make an official ROM for it, you’re kinda screwed. Unless someone with the skills is making an un-official one. If someone with the skills wants to give it a go, I can give you remote access to a laptop (with your preferred OS, not Mac) and the S21+. Obviously, the person has to be verified. No, I will not send you the phone, so don’t even try. Too many dishonest people in the world.

It graves me that I have to to say goodbye soon. I’m not gone yet, but I’m afraid the day will come sooner than later. Thanks for all the work you guys have put into this project in advance.

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Stock Android vendor driven bloatware would be absolutely no option, at least for me…The good news: There are multiple alternative OS for a wide choice of phones available :- )

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Maybe you can point me in the right direction to look for another de-googled ROM for the S21+. Because I can’t find any.

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I don’t know anything about your specific phone, but in general many developers release a ROM with instructions to download and install Gapps separately. So what you can do in many cases is just install the ROM but not the Gapps, and without Gapps most of the core services that Google needs to work its evil will not be present on the phone. Then for the core functionality that you do need/want you can install these open source components that masquerade as Gapps: https://microg.org For those to work best try to choose a ROM that supports signature spoofing out-of-the-box, otherwise you’ll need to use a patcher framework to add that functionality.

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Throwing it out there…my rule of thumb is to wait until an /e/OS release is available before purchasing a particular phone.

In this particular case, that doesn’t exactly apply since you were given a phone. Over on XDA, it looks like there was no Google-free ROM available for it at all , /e/ or otherwise (no Lineage, no Graphene, no Calyx or iode)…so the sad reality seems to be that a deGoogled S21+ isn’t really viable, through no fault of your own.

I wonder how little data exfiltration can be done on a stock S21+ with as much declined and disabled as possible…but I have a gut feeling that the answer is ‘not much’, so that sinking feeling is one I certainly don’t envy. Similarly, I’m sure it’s not an easy thing to thumb one’s nose at a gift over a matter like this; from a hardware perspective, the S21+ is a solid piece of hardware and a replacement phone that does run /e/OS is either going to be a step down, or it’s going to be expensive.

Best of luck in sorting it out, soldier.

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I understand the feeling, I’m using /e/os since 3 months at least, and every time I have to “touch” an android-stock I can’t understand how I use so long the stock system.

Regarding your request, I hope they will soon release a rom for that model. From my vision (a vision from Argentina) it is best to buy used phones in good condition and that have a few years on top, which gives more chances to have full support. That is my case, I use a moto g7 power.

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I’ve tried for some debloat, but na, I gave up. Here’s a list for the people interested. Spend many hours making this list.

Android Easter Egg								pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.egg
Basic Daydreams 								pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.dreams.basic
Bookmark Provider 								pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.bookmarkprovider
Facebook										pm uninstall --user 0 com.facebook.appmanager | pm uninstall --user 0 com.facebook.katana | pm uninstall --user 0 com.facebook.services | pm uninstall --user 0 com.facebook.system
Google Ad service plugin						pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.adservices.api | pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.mainline.adservices
Google Assistant								pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.hotwordenrollment.okgoogle | pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.hotwordenrollment.xgoogle | pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.apps.googleassistant
Google Chrome									pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.chrome
Google Device Health Services 					pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.apps.turbo
Google Drive + Docs								pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.apps.docs
Google Feedback									pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.feedback
Google Gboard									pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.inputmethod.latin
Google Gmail									pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.gm
Google Location History							pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.gms.location.history
Google Maps										pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.apps.maps
Google Meet										pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.apps.tachyon
Google Messages									pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.apps.messaging
Google Mobile Printing							pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.printservice.recommendation
Google movies and TV							pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.videos
Google music 									pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.music
Google Photos									pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.apps.photos
Google Play Service								pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.gms
Google Play Services AR (Augmented Reality)		pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.ar.core
Google Play Store								pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.vending
Google Google + Search							pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox
Google Sheets ()								pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.apps.docs.editors.sheets
Google Speech Recognition and Synthesis			pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.tts
Google Talkback									pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.marvin.talkback
Google YouTube									pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.youtube
Google YouTube Music							pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.apps.youtube.music

LinkedIn										pm uninstall --user 0 com.linkedin.android
Live Wallpaper Picker							pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.wallpaper.livepicker
Microsoft 365									pm uninstall --user 0 com.microsoft.office.officehubrow
Microsoft Appmanager							pm uninstall --user 0 com.microsoft.appmanager
Microsoft OneDrive								pm uninstall --user 0 com.microsoft.skydrive
Microsoft Outlook								pm uninstall --user 0 com.microsoft.office.outlook
My Files										pm uninstall --user 0 com.sec.android.app.myfiles

MmsService										pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.mms.service

Netflix											pm uninstall --user 0 com.netflix.mediaclient
Netflix											pm uninstall --user 0 com.netflix.partner.activation
Partner Bookmarks								pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.providers.partnerbookmarks
Photo Screensavers								pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.dreams.phototable

Print service									pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.bips
Print service									pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.printservice.recommendation

Samsung Air command (S-Pen bloat)				pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.service.aircommand
Samsung AlwaysOnDisplay							pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.app.aodservice
Samsung Apps plugin for Edge display			pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.app.appsedge
Samsung AR Doodle								pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.ardrawing
Samsung AR Emoji								pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.aremoji
Samsung AR Emoji Editor							pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.aremojieditor
Samsung AR Zone									pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.arzone
Samsung Bixby Settings							pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.app.settings.bixby
Samsung Bixby Vision							pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.bixbyvision.framework
Samsung Bixby Voice								pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.bixby.agent
Samsung Bixby Voice wake-up						pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.bixby.wakeup
Samsung Calculator								pm uninstall --user 0 com.sec.android.app.popupcalculator
Samsung Calendar								pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.calendar
Samsung Cloud									pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.scloud
Samsung Device Care								pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.lool
Samsung Device security (McAfee shit)			pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.sm.devicesecurity
Samsung DeX										pm uninstall --user 0 com.sec.android.desktopmode.uiservice
Samsung DeX Home								pm uninstall --user 0 com.sec.android.app.desktoplauncher
Samsung DeX System UI 							pm uninstall --user 0 com.sec.android.dexsystemui
Samsung Dual Messenger							pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.da.daagent
Samsung EasyOneHand								pm uninstall --user 0 com.sec.android.easyonehand
Samsung Edge panel plugin for contacts			pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.service.peoplestripe
Samsung Free (free newspages)					pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.app.spage
Samsung Galaxy Store							pm uninstall --user 0 com.sec.android.app.samsungapps
Samsung Galaxy Watch Manager					pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.app.watchmanager
Samsung Galaxy Watch Manager					pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.waterplugin
Samsung Gallery stories							pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.storyservice
Samsung Game Booster							pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.game.gametools
Samsung Game Optimizing Service					pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.game.gos
Samsung Game Tools								pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.game.gametools
Samsung Gaming Hub								pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.game.gamehome
Samsung Global Goal								pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.sree
Samsung Group Sharing							pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.mobileservice
Samsung HandwritingService						pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.sdk.handwriting
Samsung Health									pm uninstall --user 0 com.sec.android.app.shealth
Samsung Health Platform							pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.service.health
Samsung Internet								pm uninstall --user 0 com.sec.android.app.sbrowser
Samsung Kids Mode								pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.kidsinstaller
Samsung	Kids Mode Friends						pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.app.camera.sticker.facearavatar.preload
Samsung LED View Cover							pm uninstall --user 0 com.sec.android.cover.ledcover
Samsung LED View Cover							pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.app.ledbackcover
Samsung Live messages							pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.service.livedrawing
Samsung Members									pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.voc
Samsung Message app								pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.messaging
Samsung Mobile Universal Switch					pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.universalswitch
Samsung Notes									pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.app.notes
Samsung Pass									pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.samsungpass
Samsung Pass Autofill							pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.samsungpassautofill
Samsung Pay Framework							pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.spayfw
Samsung Push Service							pm uninstall --user 0 com.sec.spp.push
Samsung Recommended apps						pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.app.omcagent
Samsung Saftey Information						pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.safetyinformation
Samsung Samsung Internet						pm uninstall --user 0 com.sec.android.app.sbrowser
Samsung Smart Switch Agent						pm uninstall --user 0 com.sec.android.easyMover.Agent
Samsung Smart Switch Agent						pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.smartswitchassistant
Samsung Smart Switch Agent						pm uninstall --user 0 com.sec.android.easyMover
Samsung Smart Things							pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.oneconnect
Samsung Smart View								pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.smartmirroring
Samsung Sound picker							pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.app.soundpicker
Samsung Sticker Center							pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.stickercenter
Samsung Stickers for AR Emoji app				pm uninstall --user 0 com.sec.android.mimage.avatarstickers
Samsung Talkback								pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.accessibility.talkback
Samsung Tips									pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.app.tips
Samsung TV+ 									pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.tvplus
Samsung Upday									pm uninstall --user 0 de.axelspringer.yana.zeropage
Samsung Video Player							pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.video
Samsung Visit In								pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.ipsgeofence
Samsung Voice Recorder							pm uninstall --user 0 com.sec.android.app.voicenote
Samsung Wallet									pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.spay
Samsung Wallpaper and style						pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.app.dressroom
Samsung Wallpaper services						pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.dynamiclock
Samsung Watch Manager Installer					pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.app.watchmanagerstub
Samsung Weather									pm uninstall --user 0 com.sec.android.daemonapp
Samsung Wi-Fi Tips								pm uninstall --user 0 com.samsung.android.net.wifi.wifiguider

SIM Tool-kit									pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.stk

Spotify											pm uninstall --user 0 com.spotify.music
VPN Dialogs										pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.vpndialogs

regex to remove the names: ^.*(?=pm )

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