Dutch Coronamelder app needs "current" G**gle Play Services

This app needs a something implemented in Google Play Services that MicroG doesn’t have yet to work.

Indeed if the new Corona feature of MicroG is added to /e/, this app will work.

The spying option is on the way

No decision as yet on this.
Options are we can either remove the code all together or have a disabled by default version.
If disabled users who live in countries or localities where these services are mandatory / required to be used can enable and use it along with other apps.

I would vote to include it, if it is off by default, then why not?

How can I ensure that it is really off and no data is send ?

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Some people think that even if the option is off (and not only that but it can’t be even turned on by mistake, you need first to install some app and have that app request access to the API) it’s still “bad” to even have the option available at all: New MicroG 'feature'

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How do you ensure no data is sent if you don’t see the option at all?

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By the way, I don’t want start a new discussion about the new feature. We have a long post about it. I only want show, that is its on the way.

Lol, that is crap. If you didn’t want to start a discussion, you would have denied yourself the bad sentence.

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No decision as yet on this.

It is very good that you have already changed your line a bit. :slight_smile:

Do you only have this screenshot, from wherever, or can you offer the file microG Services Core 0.2.11.2099990 {com.google.android.gms} for download and thus for testing?

It’s only a screen shot from a user build. It’s not public yet

Why all this secretiveness? You of all people should be interested in clarifying whether it is “only a screen shot from a user build” or just a canard‎ (newspaper hoax‎)!

It is true. But the exposure notification is not useful for tracking people.

Edit: https://github.com/microg/android_packages_apps_GmsCore/issues/1115

Any idea when this is decided?

Um… Does this imply that in countrys where it is not mandatory, this function could not be enabled? Or did I misunderstand?

What does it mean “countrys where it is not mandatory” or more specifically where is it “mandatory” and what does it mean? That it’s been pushed by Apple to their devices for example? Because I can’t imagine how it would be mandatory for some software to include some non-trivial feature. LineageOS doesn’t come with microG or Gapps, will they be forced in some markets (if they want to be legal) to develop these features or bundle some kind of G* with their ROMs? What about UBPorts or even others who are struggling with basic features like calls and pictures, for sure they won’t get some BTLE API and programs going any time soon (years).

Maybe it means that in those countries, if they stop you for a police check and you don’t have the app installed, then it’s a big risk for you.

So it’s your business to get yourself a phone that “conforms” to the standard.

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To explain further - just enabling this feature does not help you also have to install apps which use this framework for it to be effective.
The use of this feature is mandatory in some countries. For e.g in India to travel I need to have Government approved health notification apps running on my phone if I want to board a plane or a train. I am sure it will be the case in other countries as well.
Users who do not agree with this framework’s being on their device can keep it disabled and not install any of these Apps.
My personal views apart which would be to do away with the code all together, I guess /e/ as an organization will always go by the common interest.
Given that Covid shows no signs of dissipating and Governments across the world are using this framework to track the spread of the virus, the implementation of the framework in a disabled-by-default mode may be the eventual winner.
The alternative is users carry two phones at all times on their person which does not look like a workable solution.

To the question as to when it will be decided - I can say soon 1-2 weeks if not sooner.

If the decision is to implement we will release it for testing first before releasing it via OTA for all devices.

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The implementation of this framework seem to be very privacy friendly, if it does what it prommises. You can’t be traced because of usage of random keys. It is not mandatory in the Netherlands, but I would still use it. This virus seem to me more evil than the framework implementation. I have more doubts about other microg features :smiley:

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