/e/ for virtualization

[whonix]

Hi There,

Im a member of Whonix Anonymous OS staff, it come to my attention this nice piece of software and i have some questions:

1- How much possible to run the OS inside Virtualizer? (like Xen or Virtualbox or KVM or qemu)

2- If its possible to run it with Xen hypervisor , would you consider having a Qubes OS Template?

3- Does /e/ contain any nasty non-free software? if no, is it compatible with FSDG?

Thx!

[Manoj]

Looping @rhunault from the development team to help with this query.

[harvey186]

I don’t think taht you can /e/ or any other custom android rom on a VM. There are to much hardware differences.
As xou can see in the roadmap sometimes in the future there will be a /e/ for x86 (laptops) and than you will be able to run it on a VM

[whonix]

@harvey186

I don’t think taht you can /e/ or any other custom android rom on a VM. There are to much hardware differences.

There are for android as for 86x for e.g:

https://www.osboxes.org/android-x86/

and so as 64-bit : (in development)

https://twitter.com/DanielMicay/status/1047539079653408768

@harvey186

As xou can see in the roadmap sometimes in the future there will be a /e/ for x86 (laptops) and than you will be able to run it on a VM

I dont really recommend the x86 , i have published this collection:

Clearnet Link:
https://forums.whonix.org/t/x86-heaven-of-backdoors/6284

Onion Link:
http://forums.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion/t/x86-heaven-of-backdoors/6284

[harvey186]

The VM’s you are pointing to are all x86, but you are writing that you don’t recommend x86. So I’m confused.

[whonix]

@harvey186

The VM’s you are pointing to are all x86

I just mentioned that there are Android running specifically for VMs.

@harvey186

but you are writing that you don’t recommend x86.

I am advising not to walk through the same mistakes of android when you want to build your architecture.

@harvey186

So I’m confused.

sorry , hope i solved your confusion

[whonix]

Im still waiting for an answer to Question number 3…

[Markus]

Regarding question 3, you can find the open source code of /e/ on https://gitlab.e.foundation/

On the application level I am aware of magic earth that is not open source. You can read a few notes about that map application here:

@GaelDuval

Regarding the Maps application: it’s the only application that is not (yet) open source in /e/. We have tested many Maps applications, and the only app that can be compared to the common well-known maps application is “Magic Earth”. We have discussed with the publishers of this application and while they have not decided yet to go open source, they have provided us some documentation about the privacy behavior of this application. My personal feeling is that if we show enough adoption for this application, it will eventually turn open source.

[whonix]

I see thank you for the answer.

Then /e/ not yet ready to respect user freedom (since there are non-free firmware,applications …etc).

only free software for mobiles which respect users is pureOS which comes in librem5. (endorsed by FSF)

Hope to see /e/ one day becomes free software which respect user freedom.

Thx!

[GaelDuval]

We’re focusing first on user’s data privacy. And don’t have the prentension to offer something 100% perfect today. That doesn’t exist and I firmly believe that “better and better over time” is better than nothing.

However as explained earlier:

1. Maps as MagicEarth is providing some transparency about user’s data privacy
2. MagicEarth will possibly become an open source application
3. If we see a better application than Magic Earth, that is open source at the same time, we will consider a replacement
4. I’m super-happy if there are other projects than /e/, with other approaches, it gives more choice to people.