I know it's been done before: Uninstalling default Apps

I know this has been done and I have read though the guide to uninstalling here [HOWTO] Uninstall default Apps

I even started going through those steps, but I gave up at connecting the phone to my computer. I am sorry, but this is ridiculously involved. You cannot seriously expect me to install some developer suit and crack a terminal just to get rid of an app that I have no use for.

At least let me disable apps that I am not using, but even that is not possible. And with the launcher I cannot hide it either. Honestly I had forgotten how frustrating this was during set up last time, I am having flashbacks now. I remember people not being happy with it then either.

This is not a question about how to do this, I am not going to jump through all those hoops. I also know I can install a different launcher and prbly mostly hide them away with that. Did that last time. With the new phone I want to give Bliss another chance.

What I want to know is what the reasoning behind this is? Why is it not possible to do this? The maps app doesn’t even work, but I cannot get rid of it. The preinstalled version of Tasks doesn’t do nesting, which also makes it useless to me. Why are you not giving users a choice here?

With the constant stream of people not being happy with this, why are you sticking with it? Is it a sponsoring deal? There has got to be a reason. What is it?

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That is not a reason. That is a plan. Which I assume will include locking users into the new app. Your response is not really related to my question.

I wish you every success pursuing this your way.
Have fun.

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Platform-tools is the same as for installing /e/,
The developer suit is called Android Studio SDK.

Here it is asking to disable a system app for the main user, nothing to crack.

You are totally right.

the only /e/ closed source app even privacy oriented (temporary workaround well working for years) have recently seen its usage limited because the company changed its bizness model.

a new “Murena Maps” app should come soon with /e/OS v4.0.

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I bought it pre-installed for reasons. To “crack” a terminal just means to open it. Again, your response has little to do with my question.

(you’re writing to other users here, for developers you need to make your case on gitlab).

it’s at least twofold: historically no builtin “appstore” facility and then for easier development cross-relations from system repos to apps (permissions), some app to app relations (murenaio onboarding).

For A16 there was another effort to give the user more agency over default apps at least for notifications. This + real launcher hiding could appease some users?

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As you can read e-os is forked from a version that isn’t intended to provide the polished end product that big tech companies provide.

While e-os does intend to develop an integrated end user experience they have to do so with considerably less resources than the established big tech companies in an environment that is not necessarily friendly for products that don’t monetise the end user.

I would also like to point out that none of the polished products the big tech now provides started off that way.

In particular, I remember windows versions that were very unstable and unsafe. I can honestly say that e-os has been a better experience than that.

The problem you are referring to is I think, mostly cosmetic, since the stock products hardly take up that much space as to prevent you from using alternatives. I would suggest to group the apps you aren’t using and place that group on the last screen, so you never have to go there.

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Thank you @tcecyk, this gives me at least some idea what the issue here is

I have been using /e/ for about 7 years. Please don’t lecture me about “big tech providers”. I have no idea how windows is since I haven’t used it since the 90s.

Well, that is exactly the time those windows versions that I’m talking about were released. Clearly, you’ve been using this os for longer than I have, but reading the complaints over something that I felt was relatively minor made me think that you were expecting something that was unfair, hence the comparison.

agree completely, when you finally have freed yourself from Android /Google (or Apple), you still have this unwanted Apps, which cannot be removed by me. That was a very frustrating and disappointing flashback to - right- Google

/e/OS is an Android OS based on AOSP provided by Google, adopts Android security updates by Google and stops supporting devices when Google stops security updates for the most recent Android version /e/OS can be made of on those devices.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)#Development

https://doc.e.foundation/what-s-e


They can be removed by you, just not with a convenient uninstall button, but with tools provided by … well, make a guess :wink: … [HOWTO] Uninstall default Apps

Thanks a lot, but my knowledge is far beyond that, so do not think I will manage that….

copy / paste is your friend…

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Many users have done it without much prior knowledge, it’s doable.
If you are interested, we can help if you have questions or if you encounter an issue.

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yeah, but I read the [HOWTO] Uninstall default Apps , and that was heavy…but I will see and try….

You can also create a new page at the right side of the launcher where you can drag all unused applications. Alternately, you can create a folder where you put these applications. I think both solutions avoid the applications being reinstalled by a system upgrade.

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The uninstalling when done like in the HowTo will survive reboots, regular OS updates and OS Android version upgrades, unless you factory reset or install from scratch.

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