What’s fast in numbers? With an 8 CPU environment the whole process took nearly 2 hours for me…
What level of details are you referring?
Yes, I agree, that’s probably out of scope (although it would also be interesting for me…). I assume it can’t be done using the docker method…
What I could still show someone who’s interested (but I suppose for @Ralf it would be nothing new and - sure - it’s all written in the according posts. So the only difference would be hands on experience.):
I like the idea of users getting together to learn how to build /e/ …you can find some helpful posts on the subject here
The Docker way of building is really simple - not very flexible but if you have a device which is already supported by LineageOS then building a ROM for /e/ is easy. It looks daunting the first couple of time.
I am sure @Unknown - who has made at least a 100 docker builds for different devices , will definitely agree. Our non docker champion builders @harvey186 , @andrelam , @Chimpthepimp all have posted excellent topics on the forum which you can check out to learn more.
So what do you think about following @Manoj’s idea and begin at least a tie up between /e/ and FP on a community level? We could meet together with some Fairphoners on the Fairphone Meetup on January-27. People with other devices are also very welcome. I’d even given an /e/ presentation there some time ago.
What do you think?
Yes, you are right here. I just tested a docker build on a 8 CPU server and it took about 2 1/2h with all the source syncing etc. With cache set up subsequent builds are faster I believe.
Sorry, that was a bit unclear from my side. I don’t refer to the guide, but meant understanding the build-process as a whole, including adding support for other devices + removing / adding apps.
This seems indeed out of scope for the docker-method, so I am trying with the non-docker approach as documented for lineageos. The actual use-case for now is an /e/-oreo-build for athene (Moto G4) and (for the fun of it) a lineage-pie-build. Device-Code is on github, so its just about putting it all together.
@Manoj: thanks for the links you posted, they are really helpful! I also found this post on xda helpful for my understanding.
This is a really interesting idea - a meetup between users of different phones / OS . A great way to start good solid working partnerships between organizations.
I will share this idea with the /e/ team… will see if we can get anyone from the /e/ dev team to participate either remotely ( video conf ) or by being physically present at the venue.
I would also give this a go incase I have some spare time. Is there a schedule apart from building /e/ with docker or is this meetup just about a general discussion?
At the 27th, there is also a “Lineage and Linux Install Party” hosted by Digitalcourage (which is a german NGO, focused on privacy and fundamental rights in the digital age) that actually takes place only 1.5 km away from the “Eine-Welt-Haus”.
It would be interesting to work with them and see what they think about /e/ as I’m pretty sure that they are not aware of the co-existance of /e/ next to Lineage. Would be nice to see some kind of cooperation with these guys as they have a lot of knowledge when it comes to privacy and how to introduce new users to this topic. They’ve also done a “Free Your Android” project in the past. Furthermore, they have an existing infrastructure with periodic meetups, crypto and install parties.
I don’t use a Fairphone, but I use the censorship-free and trustworthy DNS server of Digitalcourage e.V. DNS over TLS | Host: dns2.digitalcourage.de | Port: 853
From this point of view, it would be more interesting to get to know and exchange ideas with the people from Digitalcourage e.V., as suggested by exyna.
/e/ Building OS ROMs with and without a docker still remains highly interesting for me and I am anxious to learn it.
The “Lineage and Linux Install Party” is an interesting find. So we might consider to go there this time. It’s only once - and the Fairphone meeting is on a monthly base. I’m just not there in February (holiday season) but maybe we could still do the joint session end of March.
Just keep in mind you have to register for the Digitalcourage meeting.
What do you mean, @Ralf, @exyna, @archie?
I’d say this is a good option to go. I have by now (I think) almost completely understood how to build supportet + non-supported devices with docker, so we can talk about this at the event. @ff2u also knows a lot about this from what I read. I also happen to be a long time linux user, so it’s interesting all the way.
Edit: I emailed them to ask if it is ok for us to join this event, will keep you updated.
The digitalcourage event is really rather meant for helping people to install LOS / Linux, so we should not highjack it. There is an upcoming open meeting that is probably better suited, I also still think linking up is interesting as we share a lot of ideas. So lets postpone this for now.
Next Meetup of FP community will be on June 26th in EineWelt-Haus Munich.
In case you’re interested in/e/OS or in installing the system on a Fairphone just pass by., It’s best to announce at https://forum.fairphone.com/t/monatliches-munchen-fairphoners-meetup/19285 that you’ll be coming. So we can be best prepared.
Next Fairphone community meetup in Munich will happen “tomorrow” (Feb., 26th).
As always /e/OS phones will participate. So in case you’re interested, join the meeting at Eine-Welt-Haus Munich.