MobilePay issues continued

Good point, i already forgot whether I remembered to turn it off as standard! So better try once again :slight_smile:

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No, didn’t work… I downloaded Adblock browser, made it standard, deleted Mobilepay and installed it again, but still opened Brave. I also tried to reboot the phone. Then I tried to “shred web page data” in Brave, no luck. Short of deleting Brave, I don’t think there is more I could do. But as this is not why we cannot login into MobilePay, I won’t do it for now… I just find it very weird.

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I don’t know @Bettina how mobilepay app works but I wonder if this github problem resolution with brave as default browser might help with a workaround?

P.S. Might not.. :roll_eyes:

Alright so I managed to get Mobilepay working properly this time.

It’s not ideal, but it is a fix. I have been deep down the rabbit hole of MicroG git issues and whatnot. At this point, you need a Google account attached to MicroG to achieve Basic integrity. There is unfortunately no way around it. Has to do with a recent change to how Google has tied integrity checks together.

So I created a new G account without a phone number attached (tricky but can be done), so no tracing back to me.

And then I did the Systemwide login from the App Lounge. At this point, I just needed to reinstall my apps, and they have basic integrity.

Also, see here:

And here:

Anyway. I think this might have fixed MitID for me as well. Will report back soon.

Edit: MITID is still broken. I guess it needs the full round of Google integrity BS.

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Yes, I did just today learn that if you login with a google account, you can make it work… but the whole point of getting a Murena /e/OS for me was to avoid using Google and to avoid logging in to anything!

So I’m not too fond of going down this route. But I guess the big questing is, if we indeed can create google accounts that cannot trace back to us. I’m not sure I would trust that.

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Mobilepay stopped working on SailfishOS devices and they don’t promise any support in the future:

(Translate with the tool that you prefer)

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@MRTN @martinielsen @otto.liljalaakso @Lars_O

Someone just pointed me towards this solution. I wouldn’t like installing an old version of a financial app, but you do you :slight_smile:

”In Aurora Store, there is a menu at the top right where you can choose manual installation. Here you need to search for the latest working version, which is 4428472 (found on https://sailfishos.app/). Downgrading doesn’t work, so MobilePay has to be removed and reinstalled. This requires that I first install Chrome and set it as the default browser so that MitID with the code app works. Fortunately, it can be uninstalled afterwards.”

As you can see, this was for sailfish, but I guess something similar would work for Fairphone/murena. I would also think that if you find a version from after this fall, Brave or Vivaldi browser would work, and you don’t have to installe chrome. But I haven’t tried it myself.

Courtesy Niels J on Mastodon.

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Hurray - that’s working exactly as described. Here is a more detailed description:

  1. Use the App Lounge to download the Aurora app (App Lounge gets many of the apps from Aurora Store too, so no need to panic). The reason to download the Aurora App is that it provides some possibilities that App Lounge doesn’t. Among them is the possibility to download a specific version of an app, which is exactly what we need.
  2. Open the Aurora App, select Anonymous when asked to log in, and search for MobilePay. Instead of selecting install, press the three dots menu in the top right corner → Manual download.
  3. Change the number to 4428472, which is a version from March 2026 - the last version that actually worked on e/OS. Then click install.
  4. Reject to update to latest version.
  5. Open MobilePay and fill in the requested information.
  6. When asked to verify with MitID and the e/OS browser opens up, click on the three dots in the top-right corner and select “Open in xxx”, where xxx is an alternative browser you have installed, like Brave or Vivaldi (I used Vivaldi and it works perfectly).
  7. Complete the MitID verification.

Now MobilePay opens up and it behaves as it should on /OS :blush:.

IMPORTANT: If your e/OS is set up to automatically install updates in the background, this version of MobilePay will be overwritten next time App Lounge searches for updates. So if you want to keep this version of MobilePay (you probably will :wink:), you can either disable automatic updates (open App Lounge and press Settings in the lower right corner. Uncheck “Automatically install Updates”) or you can disable automatic updates installed by other stores (open App Lounge and press Settings in the lower right corner. Uncheck “Update apps installed by other stores”. I chose the latter option and will see how that works out :thinking:. You should also check that automatic updates are disabled in the Aurora App (gear icon in top-right corner → Settings → Updates), but as the default seems to be “Do not auto-update apps”, the Aurora App does not mess things up by default.

The concern is of course that you’re now running on an old version of MobilePay, and that is a risk that you should be aware of. Now and then, I will probably check whether the newest version will work, but as long as it doesn’t, we don’t really have an option, if we want to use MobilePay on e/OS.

However, we should continue to put pressure on Vipps/MobilePay to stop discriminating people that have left american big tech :face_with_symbols_on_mouth:.

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Thanks @Lars_O for the detailed guide, I really appreciate it!

And yes, we should definitely keep putting pressure on VIPPS/Mobilepay to stop discriminating people that have left american big tech!

PS - small win, but I wrote to the Danish consumer magazine TÆNK and they actually changed their wording a bit in an article, to make it a bit more kind to alternative operative systems: Mobiltelefoner: Disse er Bedst i test
His changed comment in English: “There are options if you want to choose a mobile phone with an alternative operating system to Android and iOS or with a lower climate impact – but the options are few.

“If you want to choose a smartphone with a different operating system, you should be aware that using Danish-developed apps like MitID and the Health Card will be limited. It can be done with alternatives, for example a code generator for MitID, but we believe that public apps should instead be developed so they can be used on more platforms,” explains Thomas Sterner Pedersen.”

(Before it said: “It is difficult to argue that you should switch to a smartphone with a different operating system, because you cannot use MitID, the Health Card and other Danish-developed apps. It is possible to use alternatives, such as a code indicator for MitID, but you will be very limited," explains Thomas Sterner Pedersen.”). I thought this was a bit too much on the pessimistic side, and luckily, he agreed.

His answer (in Danish):
Bettina Hartmann: "@jeppe@uddannelse.social Så fik jeg svar fra TÆNK…" - Mastodon.nu

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