The only problem i see is that you can’t install the latest version of Trebuchet as far as i know, solution could be that /e/ contains Bliss and Trebuchet, and if you want another your free to install it.
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I like Bliss launcher and as someone who migrated myself and other family members from an iPhone, I very much appreciate its simplicity and familiarity.
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Mm, I did, actually. the Fairphone community has a fair amount of people who switched from Apple to Android because FP has a unique selling point, not offered by Apple.
I do like bliss since it is familiar, however for me it was simply too buggy. Sometimes, installing app updates would completely crash the layout and I had to start from scratch. So I see it’s potential but wish /e/ would get back to work on it. Many issues are yet to be addressed.
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I also had many similar frustrations and consequently questions about Bliss. Eventually, after trying a number of different launchers, I settled on Omega.
I understand trying to take advantage of the popularity of Apple to get a head start on marketing, but I agree with others that there should be a choice on installation or going with fruit or desserts. As someone who doesn’t like the ‘modern’ flat styles I also find the continued drive to make all the foundational apps even more bland and featureless questionable. But I’ve already switched to Omega launcher so I just try to ignore the other ‘developments’ because my phone is a tool, not my life.
I like Bliss but would like more flexibility in how and what I be changed to fit individual preferences.
Initiated already quite a while ago, but not outdeated at all - there is already a discussion on Bliss with lots of ideas…
Just check it out.
You’re totally right, I don’t understand the need to waste precious resources for the project when there is such a perfect launcher as Lawnchair 2 that would be way better as default launcher than this problematic Bliss
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The ‘I like Bliss - I hate Bliss’ argument has been a part of /e/ since day one. In general users who come from a pure Android background hate it while those who have used iOS like Bliss.
The fact that there are so many launchers available on Google Play Store or FDroid in itself points at the fact that one design will not please all.
The idea behind the Bliss design was to have an easy to understand launcher which had almost no learning curve to it.
Have you every tried explaining how to install apps to a non-tech person over a long distance call?
I have. I tried to explain how to install whatsapp to a relative of mine. This person has a MiUI stock ROM which means finding Google play store , searching for whatsapp, downloading and installing it.
Even after an almost hour long call he was not able to get it right. Finally had to ask his neighbor …a teenager to install it for him !
The concept of swiping down for notifications , swiping up to open folders showing apps can all be a bit confusing to some folks. That is where an all icons on the main screen design helps.
All said and done as I mentioned earlier there are a hundreds of Launchers available. Android allows you to install your own set of apps.
While the developers of the launcher continue their attempts to modify and improve the design to suit all tastes…we can always use a launcher which suits our needs.
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I solved the issue by installing LineageOS instead. Did you know that /e/ project is a fork of LineageOS? /e/ project is modified version of LineageOS.
Also, the LineageOS for my phone is Android 10, while /e/ Project is stuck on Android 8.
Maybe, but aspects of Bliss are not easy to understand. Especially the crap widgets on the left most screen the user can’t remove and the arrangmet of the app icons without allowing gaps. The user can despair about this. I think the /e/ project makes a lot of people not very happy with that very simple things.
Not really, ‘Q’ was released recently, at least for the Galaxy S9 and some others, which is an update to 10.
To the haters
- just use another launcher
- make constructive suggestions for improvement with explanations why the proposal makes sense
- don’t use /e/ at all or wait until it is finished
I also don’t use Bliss, but i think it is a simple to use launcher for non geeky people. It needs tweaking, but this is how it is with unfinished software.
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Already did. I don’t know, what exact Launcher LineageOS is using, but I think it is stock Android launcher. Unlike Bliss, it is not restrictive and doesn’t have weird features and default settings.
Already did in the original post.
Ok, but why then it is used as default launcher, if it is not finished? Isn’t smarter just to reuse exisying launchers? (Like Android stock launcher)
So your problem is more or less solved. Just continue using the repacement for Bliss or switch to LineageOS.
You did, which is very good. The sentence “To the haters” was not specifically addressed to you, I was a bit upset while reading thru the thread, sorry.
Because you need a point to start and /e/ is still beta.
I would say it is easier to develop an application from scratch than to adapt an existing application to your own ideas. Also, it makes sense to develope it “in house” and to grow with the code because the launcher is one of the core elements of /e/ for people that even don’t know that the launcher can be replaced, which seem the target audience for this launcher to me.
The important things are actually under the hood and not the launcher which can be replaced, but they are not seen at first glance.
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@manoj what about bringing Trebuchet back to devices with enough space? That would give the user a choice. Trebuchet was in early versions of /e/ but was removed to save space i beleive.
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Since there’s a “System apps” category now in the Apps installer, it could be offered there for a start. It’s easy to point to, and (further developments pending) there’s not much in it, so installing this way shouldn’t be too demanding for users.
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Not sure this suggestion will be accepted after all the effort that has gone into Bliss.
All the same making Trebuchet available thorough the App Store would be a alternative…getting the correct apk is not exactly easy. I think there was a XDA link that we refered to get the Trebuchet apk.
Oh i’m not saying Bliss should leave, i like it very much. I meant adding Trebuchet as second option.
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I understood that … which would mean that a user will see two options available under
Settings >>Apps and notifications >> Default apps >> Home app
Bliss and Trebuchet…and chooses what they prefer.
You can propose this on Gitlab as a proposal …can check if it gets accepted.
The only issue is not everyone is happy with Trebuchet’s bland design…folks have their own personal preferences when it comes to launchers and customizations
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