Let me make one thing here very clear, I’m not here to troll or cause problems, I’m only asking and sharing what I know, my background is in IT and on my levels of security, just like what this conversation is all about TOR vs VPN.
Maybe from a Legal point of view it’s not being marketed as a VPN, but the ROM’s show it listed as a VPN, that is what I’m referring to.
Every place that the word VPN is being used in the ROM settings, should be replaced by the word TOR instead.
TOR is not a VPN and this should be changed. I personally don’t understand how a business could sell phones with the words VPN listed in it, using TOR.
I was under the impression looking at this, when I first started using /e/ that they had their own VPN service, or were in business with a VPN service, etc…
All I know is, the country I live in, for a business to list this as a VPN inside the ROM settings this way could be looked at in a court of law as possible fraud.
I’m not saying /e/ is committing fraud, I’m the side of /e/ but someone like me, with a IT background, looking at all this, and someone leaving in the word VPN inside the ROMs, this should of never happened, this is a big mistake for a business.
On a side note, for some feedback, I’ve been involved in TOR and OpenVPN personally and professionally in IT 20 years. I don’t like TOR, it is not as safe, secure or private, when you do a VPN properly, and I emphasise the word ‘properly’.
TOR will never ever be able to compete with a properly implemented VPN!
TOR is for the poor man’s choice for a VPN, of course it’s better than nothing, but when you run a business like this, you should not use TOR, for all the problems associated with TOR.
Tor has funding that also includes US federal agencies! Rhetorically speaking, why would anyone want to get in business with a company that has funding from US federal agencies, makes zero sense, and this has been a rant over TOR, since TOR has been around.
Everyone knows, when you want real security and privacy, you stay away from government!
I’ve test my phone using TOR on it, most of the time, when testing the system update, it times out. The App Lounge will also rarely load, just sits there blank white, because TOR is to slow.
People today in the world of Tech want fast, TOR is not fast, and just for this reason alone makes it a very bad choice to implement into your business model. I’ve been around TOR since the day it was born, I even play around with it from time to time, and still to this day, it is very slow.
As an IT Tech of over 20 years in this industry of Privacy & Security, also on many platforms, Android, Windows, OSX, Unix, Linux, I would never ever recommend TOR to anyone that can afford to pay for a good VPN service. Of course there are a lot of bad VPN services and Honey Pots out there.
Privacy is one thing, Security is another, and TOR will never be as secure as a good VPN, and no one should ever compromise Security for Anonymity. TOR isn’t even about real Privacy, it doesn’t even provide good Privacy, it provides good Anonymity, that is all.
The saddest thing about this entire situation, here’s /e/ talking about Data & Privacy, using the TOR network, with TOR getting US Federal funding, and that TOR’s best strengths are only Anonymity, not Privacy, and certainly not Security.
I have taught in IT for over 20 years, that you should never give up your Privacy, Safety, or Security, just for Anonymity, and when you use TOR, that’s exactly what you are doing.
P.S. I actually like Wireguard the best, especially given how fast it is, but this is another story of discussion, but if this was my business, I’d look into a Wireguard solution.