Your 2024 journey with /e/OS and Murena (and a V2!)

^^ I beg zu differ in all points except the one regards Apple and with some uncertainty regarding the Samsung phones because you didn’t mention the exact model.

If you want to buy a phone that will stay up to date for a very long time, you should opt for the latest version of FairPhone. This is currently FairPhone 5, which contains parts (processor) that are also used in industry and the manufacturers of these parts have given a guarantee for many years of hardware patches. This means software updates of the hardware parts themselves.

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Exiting roadmap! Especially Backup including app configs! (for me) Although is this still going to be the old limitation that only apps supporting backup will be backed up (which I think are not very many)?

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The Murena 2 Hardware-Kickstarter campaign was great.
How about this idea for the next project.
For a long time I’m looking for a car stereo / radio with google free Android. There doesn’t seem to be a possibility in this area at all. No ROM’s or flashing of ROM’s.
It would be great if there was a hardware Kickstarter for a double DIN Car Stereo with /e/OS with Android Auto support. Double DIN should be the most popular format and often times there is an adapter for many car vendors and models.
Maybe /e/OS could even team with other vendors like Volla Phone if it would be too hard to achieve this alone.

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up from Android 14 (or if the backport to 13 works out) Seedvault uses the device2device-transfer to backup all apps, even if Apps disallow regular backup inclusion.

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A good idea, especially after the Mozilla test!
https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/blog/privacy-nightmare-on-wheels-every-car-brand-reviewed-by-mozilla-including-ford-volkswagen-and-toyota-flunks-privacy-test/
‘Privacy Nightmare on Wheels’: Every Car Brand Reviewed By Mozilla — Including Ford, Volkswagen and Toyota — Flunks Privacy Test

The possibility of replacing a car radio yourself could improve the scandalous privacy situation for car owners.

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I don’t want AI / LLM on my phone, and I don’t need it on my phone. It’s got nothing to do with worry. If /e/ roll out AI on their OS I am gone in a heartbeat.

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I recently bought a new car (Jeep Wrangler hybrid), and have been researching this issue in way more detail than I want. Sadly, replacing the Android head unit would do zilch for owner privacy on these things.

The head unit does run Android, and it’d be great to get a more open variant on it, but the privacy culprit is a unit called the Telemetry Box Module {TBM) on Stellantis group vehicles. It’s where the cell modems reside and where the data leakage happens; the head unit talks to it over the vehicle’s internal CAN networks, and is largely just for user interface.

Sadly.

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Hey!
This sounds very interesting and I can’t wait to see it all implemented.
Especially the multi-user / family / group perspective will be a big game-changer for many use-cases.
Thanks everybody for the great work you’re doing - please keep on with it, as now more than ever we need it.
Heroes, the lot of you!

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Good idea. Cars truly becoming a privacy nightmare nowadays. Sadly also radios become more proprietary, and often are not DIN-compatible anymore now, so exchanging it will get much harder.
Also a lot of producers put their basic controls, e.g. air conditioning into their proprietary radio, which makes it almost impossible so switch the radio.
Everyone that takes privacy serious, should probably only buy a car before 2019, because of better DIN compatibility and also because those didnt have a blackbox yet, which is the next step to total surveillance in cars.

If there was a way to flash eOS on a affordable Double Din Radio, id really would like to give it a try :slight_smile:

As Apple has stopped his icar what about an eOS car but without the autonomous self driving features? ;- )

Thanks a lot for all the work done already! Great what you achieved so far!

I’d like to know if E2E encryption of the Murena cloud data is still on the roadmap. As far as I remember Nextcloud supports it already and there were efforts to use it in Murena.

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Even if it offers perfect privacy, any application (LLM or otherwise) that I don’t want to use, but cannot be removed, would be bloatware. These applications also consume resources (even if it’s just storage) and increase the attack surface. The ability to remove anything that isn’t fundamentally required for the phone to boot and function should be a given IMO.

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Maybe AOSP is closer to what you are looking for than /e/ or any Lineage based distro.

If it’s a pre-installed App, the standard Android way to uninstall it via ADB would be available at least.

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It would be very very nice (please :pleading_face:) to include a real Dynamic Color system in /e/ v2.

As far as I am aware Lineage (the base) has a monet engine. It would be very cool to be able to change the default colors to your liking, since that is basically one of the most important (or at least most advertised and well-known) features of Android 12 (and above). Please include a Color changing option

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Congratulations and a big thank you for your work.
I recently had the misfortune to have to replace my motherboard of my FP3 and come back on a replacement mobile with google! What a pain!
I found my FP3 with great satisfaction.
definitely the V2 that I hope will work well with older devices like the FP3
Once again, congratulations to Gaël and his entire team.
Good road…
Bravo et un grand merci pour votre travail.
J’ai eu dernièrement la malchance de devoir remplacer ma carte mère de mon FP3 et de revenir sur un mobile de rechange avec google ! Quelle plaie !
J’ai retrouvé mon FP3 avec une grande satisfaction.
vivement la V2 qui je l’espère fonctionnera bien avec les appareils plus anciens comme le FP3
Encore une fois, bravo à Gaël et à toute son équipe.
Bonne route…

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Many many thanks for all the hard work. This is such a positive step in a surveillance world.
It was something I was waiting for for years.

I can’t wait to see how you’re going to improve the launcher and the camera! And I really welcome the TTS initiative, which I think is essential if we’re to break free from Google’s aegis. Add to that a truly usable TTS and things would be perfect.
Your idea of an LLM is brilliant :heart_eyes: I can’t wait to see how you’re going to interpret it while respecting confidentiality :eyes: especially with the panoply of models that exist and that are going to be released :eyes::eyes: for me it’s excellent to keep up with the times, and for those who don’t agree just don’t use it :sparkles:

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re. car stereo.
I’ve just found a provider of Android devices with a focus for car stereo. It looks like almost all important car vendors and car models are covered. Maybe it would be possible to install /e/OS on those devices. Maybe /e/OS can even partner with that company and provide optional /e/OS installation. It looks like a company based in china, but they provide websites for many European languages (including German, Spanish and french https://www.autoradiodvdgps.fr/ or Seicane com)