⚠️ Do not update Google Apps for now

:warning: We recommend NOT to update any Google apps on /e/OS for now. Disable auto-updates in App Lounge if you are using Google apps, and update app per app. New updated Google apps have a signature incompatibility that prevent them to work. The team is working to find a solution. We’ll keep you updated.

Update: We expect to release a fix for this issue early this coming week.

Regain your privacy! Adopt /e/OS the deGoogled mobile OS and online servicesphone

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Might be worth pinning this post to try limit users starting new posts about individual apps that have suddenly stopped working.

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Anyway, App Lounge has been spinning its wheels for some time now, so it’s a good thing the aurora store exists.

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too late for me and this is really problematic.
Hope the team will found a solution quickly

The issue is that the newest update to Google apps uses the packageInfo.signingInfo property in the API instead of .signatures, as reported in the microG issue tracker. Currently, only .signatures was spoofed.

/e/OS contributors are currently pushing the fix into /e/OS signature spoofing code.

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The official /e/OS Telegram account has said that an OTA update with a fix will be pushed “early next week”.

Screenshot of a message in a Telegram channel named "/e/OS & Murena announcements" that reads: "A fix is available and will be deployed through an OTA update early next week."

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Almost 5 years without any GAFAM APP! I’m feeling a heroe eheheh

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This incident should serve as a welcome opportunity for everybody to evaluate their use cases in connection with using /e/OS:

You are not affected? … Good.

You are affected, but you were aware this could happen anytime on /e/OS, so it’s not a big deal for you? … Good.

You are affected, and you were not aware this could happen anytime on /e/OS, but you can manage for now? … Almost good.
Going forward, please be aware this can happen. It’s by design. There’s no conceptual fix apart from all App vendors including Google dropping Google dependencies from their Apps, which in all likelihood is not going to happen.
Please plan your usage and choose your Apps and OS accordingly.

You are affected, and something very important for you is now broken, and a fix can’t arrive fast enough? … Bad.
You are absolutely using the wrong OS for your use case(s). Time to reconsider use cases and/or OS.


And as a reminder:
Not only Google’s own Apps can break anytime as right now. Every App depending on Google in some form, which are most Apps in existence, can break anytime on OSes without the genuine Google Apps and services (like /e/OS).
Please plan your usage and choose your Apps and OS accordingly.

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This is your point of view.
Me I concider that I use the good OS for me, proton email and many other app who respect privacy but because I’ve got many friends and a social life I cannot stop to use Whatapp, Google drive and Google callendar for exemple because most of my friend continue to share working document in google drive and use these applications.

I’m not blocked because I’ve rollback the last google update, but this is a shame.
My personnal reason to move to /e/OS is first the privacy and 2d because all applications in the google play store (and so google apps also) will work

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Nobody can guarantee they will work at any given point in time on /e/OS, and not all work anyway.

It’s a good thing older App versions can serve as a workaround in this particular case now, but just wait for the next time a fault doesn’t lie with an App, but it’s just microG having to do some catching up again after changes by Google, which may take a while, and without older versions of anything as a workaround.

Just consider the nature of a degoogled OS when running googled Apps and let any hickup be a perhaps unpleasant but still calculated inconvenience instead of an unexpected catastrophe :wink: .

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I don’t know who you are to say that “Nobody can guarantee they will work at any given point in time on /e/OS”.
Are you in the /e/OS gouvernance team ?
Because if not, once again this is your point of view.

Me I just explain what I read here that “/e/OS is compatible with all your favorite Android apps, because keeping your data private shouldn’t mean forgoing your digital experience.”

May be I didn’t understand well.

But Ok I know now that at anytime something can be wrong, so that why I’ve deactivated automatic Apps update.
And yes, thanks AnotherElk, I know too that all Apps don’t work

Anyway, this is not a big issue because I know how to rollback now.

And to finish, I’m not criticise /e/OS and absololuty not the dev team work. Everything is not perfect but nothing (and nobody) is perfect.

/e/OS is a good OS developed by passionate team. Thanks to them.

Discussion closed (on my side)

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See what they did there? By definition incompatibilities only mean that affected Apps can’t be your favourite ones.
They were more clear and brave with this headline over here:

“Compatible with all apps”

But it’s just some innocent marketing/advertising, there’s no harm done surely.

Agreed.
It’s a good thing that it exists.

“Gmail won’t run without Google Play services, which are not supported by your device”

I am using Blue Mail as a workaround to receive mail from Google.

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This reminds me of when Google broke the piped players. The old cat and mouse game.

I am still using Newpipe…

It’s important to understand that this affects all devices running on custom ROM without GAPPS, not just /e/OS users.

I personally use the following devices:

. Fairphone 4 running /e/OS (primary - daily use)
. Xiaomi Redmi Note 9S running Ubuntu Touch with WayDroid & Micro-G (secondary - daily use)
. Samsung S2 running LineageOS for Micro-G (secondary - tests)
. Vollaphone running VollaOS (auxiliary - used by my youngest daughter)

All devices are affected by the same problem. (which is not a big deal for me).

However, I’ve noticed that the /e/OS team is being particularly responsive and is already working on a fix, which is highly commendable :wink:

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Should be fixed soon, according to Gael Duval on mastodon ! :metal:

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May I ask what do not work properly actually means in detail? For example, I’m still using Google Maps from time to time and I can still start the app and search for POIs (which still works), but the app does no longer display map data - like those map-related web requests fail.

For example, the following screenshot should display downtown Zurich and has been captured after a minute or so in a fast network (so download speed is not an issue). I also reset the app by clearing all data and caches:

Is that what you are referring to?

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I also only have issues with maps. Is a downgrade via aurora solving it? And if so what is the version code of the last working one?

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Same on my side. Too late. Which version of gmaps should i go back to?