Thank you. So, the update will be possible without re-flashing if i understand well. (I am french)
Another question ? Is it possible to install a beta version of /e/ on the fairphone 3+ ? I would like to can use the camera and the sound, why not by taking part of the beta tests. If that is not possible, i will temporary go back to the stock android ROM.
Hi @Caribou22, I saw FP3 owners ask for that in the thread below, not sure whether they became ‘beta’ testers…
I did not read this forum before I ordered the plus-camera.
I didn’t expect a problem and did not see any warnings.
I owe a Fairphone 3 with preinstalled /e/ bought by you, with the newest Update from August (no newer update is offered).
I inserted the new camera, it is not detected and does not work, even not with lower resolution.
@manoj: When will an update be available with working support for the 3±camera in the Fairphone 3 with /e/.
The FP3+ camera will require a Q build on the device. This would require a clean flash which would wipe existing data on a pie device. You can use the Easyinstaller for the flashing part.
@Manoj: If I completely wipe, I will loose all my registered connections of the phone to banks and other service providers who reference to generated phone IDs with double authentification. Is there a regular update to Q scheduled for Fairphone 3 (without data loss)?
Unfortunately at the moment we do not have a way to update the OS version without a complete wipe. We are working on modifying the updater to be able to upgrade OS …it works on a S7 and if I remember the test was to update Nougat to Oreo…not sure there was much progress after that. The reason was essentially we did not want to mess up user devices with such a big change flowing out on all / more devices.
I wonder if someone has good experience with/e/ os Q and Fairphone 3+?
I only see bad experiences.
I’m happy with my Faiphone3 with /e/ os 0.12 Pie but I bought the new camera updates and wonder when is a good time to upgrade.
Maybe wait for a while?
As user of FP3+ since the first release of /e/ q, I have not had any bad experience until now. I’m a new /e/ user, and am really glad with it.
I’ve had some issues, but the most important ones have been fixed really quickly.
Here’s another positive experience 
I also bought a FP3+ recently, installed /e/ OS Q on it and I am really pleased.
The only bugs I encountered so far are slow camera switching between front and back and that I am not able to set different colors of the notification LED for different applications. I consider both of them to be minor inconveniences only.
@Manoj: Now there are at least two (thendriks and me), who bought the camera update and await an easy installer update without data loss.
Maybe it is the wrong forum here, but I don’t want to loose the context, therefore a stupid question, if the updater/installer won’t come soon: Would it work for me, if I did a backup with adb for the apps and app data, and then restore it on Q, or at least the data?
Is there any working backup-service in /e/ for such cases, in case of phone changes or factory resets?
And I am missing a full working TWRP on the preinstalled FP3/e for doing backups there. Can I add TWRP still now without data loss?
I want to avoid all the new registering on banking accounts and other services.
Might still work for you, but you have been warned 
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No. You would need to unlock the bootloader for this, and unlocking the bootloader will force a factory reset.
I think your best bet is to wait for the OTA upgrade then.
I am supporting this request. Is there a (very rough) timetable when we could expect an automated updating progress from pie to Q for the FP3? e.g. 1 months, 3 months, half a year? Or is it not at all currently being worked on?
I am also unsure whether to upgrade manually with all the hassle involved or if waiting for a short while (see above) would be better.
Thank you @Manoj for a short reply.
Hi, I am also eagerly waiting for an update that will allow me to use the new camera+ on my Fairphone 3. Since a few months it is said that they are working on an update until October. Now it’s December, I installed update 0.13 on my FP3, but the camera still doesn’t work.I’m not a hardware professional and not a programmer, but just a “simple” smartphone user who wants to use his smartphone AND the camera without all kinds of obstacles, reinstallations, non-existing backup solutions and resets. Fairphone has produced bullshit here. There should have been a clear indication that the camera+ does not work with /e/. I’m not a hardware professional and not a programmer, but just a “simple” smartphone user who wants to use his smartphone AND the camera without all kinds of obstacles, reinstallations and resets. Fairphone has produced bullshit here.There should have been a clear indication that the camera would not work in an FP3 with /e/.
This is not correct. The new camera modules do not work with Android 9, be it /e/ or Fairphone OS. On Android 10 they work.
This, sadly, is true. There will be no simple way to update /e/ OS based on android 9 to android 10 in the near future.
So what can I do? Switch to Android 10, which I, because of goolag, do not want to do? Wait for an /e/ update that solves the problem with the camera? Fairphone clearly writes on their website that /e/ OS will soon work with the camera+ in an FP3… I think /e/ OS is great, but if there is no simple solution to this problem, or if I have to reinstall everything several times in the future to be able to use the new FP camera module sometime (when?), /e/ OS is useless for my purposes. I just don’t have the time and the desire to deal with such problems so extensively anymore. But what alternative is there?
Sorry, I should have made clearer that the camera of course also works with /e/ OS based on Android 10. I am running /e/ on my FP3+ and the camera works
Still the inconvenience of having to perform a new installation to get from /e/ 9 to /e/ 10 remains 
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Hi Ijahn, is there a guide somewhere on how to install from /e/ Android 9 to /e/ Android 10? That would help me a lot. Thanks for your help in advance!
As far as I know, the manual upgrade procedure is in no way different from a normal installation.
You unlock the bootloader, boot into fastboot, flash the new images,… the usual stuff, just follow the instructions on the website. All your data is lost in the process.
If you already have an unlocked bootloader, there may be ways to backup and recover your data. I’m no expert on this (mine is locked 
), but the forum search is your friend 
about backup and restore data, you may find some help here : [HOWTO] Backup and Restore Data on Android Devices
Hi!
I am also currently facing the camera+ issue on my FP3+ and as I understand it, there won’t be a simple way in the near future to change from android 9 to android 10 on /e/, so I decided to just use the old camera modules until then. However I was wondering if someone knew where/how/if we will be informed about it, so that I can be notified about that particular update coming out ?
Thanks a bunch!