For me /e/OS is completely new. I realise that I don’t really know where to start to understand everything. For example, I have the problem that the phone numbers do not synchronise automatically between the mobile phone and the murena workspace. When I click through the instructions, the topic of Nextcloud comes up. What do I need Nextcloud for? Are murena and nextcloud related or do they have nothing to do with each other?
That’s my first question.
I would be very happy if someone could explain this to me.
Have you set on the synchronization from Settings/accounts/contacts?
You don’t need Nextloud itself if you use the Murena account.
Nextcloud is an open source suite you can install on your own or you can use an instance installed by someone else. AFAIK, the Murena suite is a fork of the Nextcloud.
Thank you so much! … Then I can now uninstall Nextcloud again, I’m already happy once I understand murena workspace. …
Yes, by phone numbers I meant the contacts. … I have now clicked on client synchronization. The contacts in the mobile phone and in the online account are still not congruent. But maybe it takes time to synchronise?
I did it via Settings → client synchronization … Maybe I’m doing it wrong?
thanks a lot again
True. As said above by @jobal, Murena is an instance of Nextcloud … but not quite the same … it is a fork.
My feeling is that it is useful to learn how to use the Murena “Cloud plan” … it may not be entirely intuitive as we all learn some adjustments since the outage.
Turn to the smartphone: you can connect the device to a remote (“cloud”) account. It can be any that speaks a standard protocol, but the default is to hook it up to web murena.io - an instance of the nextcloud server software (not client software).
The hooking up part usually happens during the first time starting the device, but can be done at any later time,
Thank you very much for the detailed description! … I cheked it out and I have already installed my murena.io account on my smartphone.
I made various test:
When I add a new contact in my murena account online, it appears in the contact list of my smartphone. When I delete the contact, it’s not deleted from the contacts on my smartphone.
When I add a contact on my smartphone, it doesn’t appear in my murena account online.
My aim would be, that the contacts synchronize in both directions…
checkout this screenshot by @aibd where the “default account for new accounts” should be set to the murena account then. Give it a moment to sync back though.
If you want to know more about Android contacts machinations (what display all contacts is about) you can read the whole thread.
Great! I changed the default account to my Murena account (before, the default account was the smartphone). Now, adding contacts works in both directions and it synchronises properly. The only issue is that when I delete a contact, the information doesn’t synchronise. But maybe that’s normal?
Another question: I have the name@e.email WG account and the name@e.email PG account. One is for contacts and the other is for webmail. … I don’t have any data in the webmail account. Is it necessary to have both accounts? What is the second one for?
Thank you so much — I think I’m starting to understand my Murena account!
I was so happy when I thought I had solved everything! But now I realise it’s still a bit of a mess, and I can’t organise my contacts properly.
This is what happens now: When I add a new contact online, it appears twice on my smartphone. However, when I add a new contact to my Fairphone, it syncs properly and only one new contact appears online.
When I delete a contact from my smartphone, it is also deleted online.
However, the opposite doesn’t work: When I delete a contact online, it isn’t deleted on my smartphone.
I also have the problem that there are now many contacts on my smartphone that I can’t delete. They are write-protected — I didn’t intend to protect them and now I can’t delete them. I can only hide them. …
If anyone knows how I can do this, I would be very grateful for any help Many thanks!
This can happen when contacts are added by “other apps”, but those apps’ permissions are inconsistent from what you want. One example app that can interfere in this way would be Telegram.
Maybe now you are much more advanced in your understanding it will be worth rereading all the advice in this thread, some advice might now be more fully understood.
Some things might be illuminated by taking a copy of a .vcf export taken from Contacts app and opening it as a spreadsheet; you may find some quite useful secondary information such as the source of individual contacts.
I guess the duplicates is the (evil?) work of the Webmail addressbook. It’s a workaround setup by murena to sync into Snappymail, the webmail frontend to have addresses autocomplete where email is filled in “main addressbook contacts”.
If you don’t use webmail often you could consider removing it, complexity gone - or remove the addressbook from the Contacts app.
As said previously that Android contacts are aggregates, at best it hides when more than 1 addressbook have the same entries and it will automatically link (there’s an option to unlink or relink). But I think (and as you state) there are userflows where you end up in the twilight zone.
You probably deleted the contact detail in one of the two addressbooks at murena - it was left over in webmail, so it seemed like no deletion took place?
I’m so sorry it takes a degree to wrangle them contacts.
Thank you for your patience. I decided to take it step by step. I think there is a chance that Telegram is interfering with my contacts, which are saved on my Murena.io account. I have Telegram, WhatsApp and Signal on my smartphone. I wanted to find out where the contacts were coming from.
I now know how to open a CSV file in Excel or a spreadsheet. But I don’t think it’s possible to open VCF files with these programmes. Is that right? I converted one contact from VCF to CSV. I could open it. However, it didn’t provide information about the source of the contact.
Is there another way to find out where my contacts are coming from?
Thank you so much! First, I will look up what the source of my contacts is. Then, I will try to understand the user flows of my Murena contacts between the contact account (Wg) and the webmail account (Pg), and I may delete the webmail account. What you described about that sounds logical. …
if the Webmail-addressbook contributed to the confusion and you want to remove it, you don’t need to delete the Webmail addressbook server-side, just don’t sync it on the device and remove it from Settings->Accounts in Android. It will not remove the whole murena account.
It’s possible though the addressbook gets re-added at some point in the background.
This idea is for clues only and different .vcf are separated by “not comma”. I mean CSV means comma separated values.
Perhaps open in a text editor to see what you are dealing with. There are also tools online which can inspect a .vcf.
While these providers might not be named individually you might find a process of elimination where for instance you look / search for " TYPE=" again looking for clues.
