[HOWTO] Using WhatsApp under shelter

@harvey186 , I have a question for you.

EXACTLY what information does Shelter isolate? When I read about Shelter, I can never figure out what information if keeps away from applications.

For example, if I install a browser in Shelter, but not an email application, but if I click on a link in the browser in Shelter that is meant to start an email, will that fail because the email app is outside of Shelter?

Or, if I use a browser within Shelter but do NOT sign in to my google account on that browser within Shelter, but I DO sign in to my google account on a browser outside of Shelter, will Google associate my browsing on my browser inside of Shelter with my Google account?

If a cookie is loaded on my phone because of browsing I did in the browser within Shelter, will that cookie also track the browsing I do in a browser outside of Shelter?

The app description says this: “Run apps inside the isolated profile so they cannot access your data outside the profile”, but I don’t understand what information it is talking about.

It’s easy. Shelter is a ‘container’. All apps which are installed inside this container have no access to data outside the container.
If you have a picture insite shelter but no gallery app, you can’t open the picture.

Or other example. Yoy are in your bedroom (shelter) and you can see everything whats in your bedroom. But you can’t see what is in your dining room.

And this goes both ways. All.apps outside shelter do not have access to the files/data insite shelter. That means, the gallery app can’t see / open the picture from insite shelter.

I hope this will clarify. If not, let me know

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Thank you. A few followup questions, four main questions, I hope you can answer each one please:

If I install an app both inside and outside the shelter, how do I keep each one current? Do I need to install the app store both inside and outside the shelter as well?

IF I were to turn on location on my phone, all apps INSIDE the shelter would NEVER know my location, because, as you said, apps inside the shelter do not know any data that is outside the shelter. Is that correct?

If an app needs other, “helper” apps to work, then in the shelter I would need to install all those helper apps. Is that correct?

Finally, I am having a hard time envisioning the case in which a person would use Shelter. May I ask, what do you use it for? How does it help you? What are you doing with it?

Thanks.

If you have a store inside shelter comed, you only need whatsapp installing with this store.
otherwise you can install whatsapp in Main and clone it into shelter. Don’t start whatsapp in Main. After it is cloned you can delete the app in Main.

If you enable location access for your shelter apps, they will have access. If you go into ‘settings’ / apps’ you will see also your shelter apps, but they have an lock in the icon. There you can give or restrict access same way as in Main.

yes

At first I use it to support others :slight_smile: And at second I use it for whatsapp, because there are 5 nice beauties which won’t swap to telegram :wink:

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@harvey186 Thanks for the very useful explanation.
What other apps do you use with Shelter? Facebook Messenger, Skype, etc.?
What about the banking applications?

your are welcome. FB I’m not using. I’m using under shelter Instagram.

You should use all apps from FB under shelter. Or twitter. But keep in mind, as much apps you are using under shelter as more information about you are collected.

for Banking apps you can check this HowTo [HOWTO] Installing Banking Apps

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How do you transfer data between personal and work profile? Since none of both profiles can see each others, I cannot figure it out…

once I tried something : I have installed Dukto (which is a free tool to transfer files via wifi to another device like pc, laptop, orelse) in my main profile (personal).
Then I installed Dukto in my work profile (using aurora which I installed too in my work profile) and also, I have Dukto installed on my linux laptop.
So I used Dukto on my personal profile to share files to my laptop, I launched the second dukto of my work profile then I shared back the file from my laptop to my work profile.
I don’t know if I explain clearly but it worked… Only thing : all the devices must be connected to the same wifi network (don’t work well with vpn though)

Is the Shelter’s built-in “file shuttle” not enough? I know it’s not always perfect, but man, your solution is one of the craziest things I’ve seen here!

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Hi there,
I have installed /e/ about a week ago, and work profile stting using shelter app does not work (I mean I can not even begin shelter configuration), using either BlissLauncher, LibreChair, or OpenLauncher…
Any idea ?
Thanks for your help !

which e version ? nougat / oreo / pie ?

I’m on pie, on a samsung a5xelte

mhm, crazy :frowning: I’m also on pie and I have tried i several times on 3 phones without any issue. But I have read that there was an user in telegram group where it is also not working. I will search the group. Hope I will find he user and how he has solved the issue

Well, thanks for your time !

Could you try installing ‘island’ ? It’s a non-FOSS version like shelter.

In fact I found out that /e/ proposed a profile setting on the phone, witch does exactly what you propose here, with whatsapp alone on a profile and all other apps on my main profile… So this looks okay to me (using LibreChair, I don’t know if it would be different with BlissLauncher though)

I think there is no difference between the launcher (but I don’t like bliss launcher )

Every android above 5 offers this work profile. But it’s not the same as shelter. With shelter you can transfer files/photos from one profile to the other and I don’t’t think that the default setup don’t offer this. But if the default work profile works for you everything is fine

'evening !

I’m trying ( e-0.7-n-surnia) but can’t add contacts in W.App (in Shelter’s work profil). I had first create a “Contacts” clone, then import a few number with *.vcf, create an “Aurora” clone, install W.A. but it always says “No w.a. contact” (first time too).

Is there an “Agree” (for W.A. use “Contacts” app) somewhere ? W.A. doesn’t show an import menu anywhere and don’t want to create new contact or new group :thinking:

Thanks a lot.

Édith says that Shelter create shortcuts in Bliss while I’m using OpenLauncher. So I need to launch Shelter first > “shelter” > W.A. > launch.

Normally shelter has a contacts app available after install. So no need for cloning. Only if you won’t use the default app.

Yes, you must allow access to contacts under the ‘normal’ phone settings /apps. That’s OK, because WA only ‘seeing’ the contacts in your work profile. All shelter apps do have a latch sign in the icon

Yes, you should have an icon on home screen for every installed app in shelter. That one with the latch

Sometimes it need some time or a reboot that you can see the contacts in.WA or WA in contacts

Thanks a lot.

I use Simple Contacts so > clone. I had show icons on Bliss home-screen a few seconds and then OpenLauncher went back.

Mmm… what’s wrong here ?