[Device Roadmap] Android 9 (Pie) & 10 (Q) : Test builds to upgrade currently supported devices

[Manoj]

That is why we have App Installer or FDroid…users can download what apps they require

[Julien]

I meant instead of installing the full version of Apps inside the /e/ROM maybe just put a shortcut so:

• it’s easy for beginners to find the basic app office, pdf viewer and so on…)
• the /e/ROM is smaller and can be deployed on older smartphones (like nexus 5 )

[yann]

Hi,
Do you expect a new official test build Pie for S7 Edge ?

[Anonyme]

As far as I know, the S7 & S7 Edge will be upgraded to Oreo first, and then it will probably be upgraded to Pie later.

But they aren’t officially supported by LineageOS on Oreo, Pie or Android 10, that’s why they are separated from other upgraded devices.

[chrisrg]

Test build OTA update failed to install on Oneplus 3T; twrp couldn’t handle the encryption and prompted a factory reset. That was a surprise!

EDIT: Started from scratch with fresh install of test build. Checked settings, phone not encrypted. Took the OTA and it failed again with unsuccessful encryption error, prompted factory reset. I couldn’t find the right steps in twrp this time to get back to the system.

In twrp “E: unable to decrypt FBE device” remained at the top of the output from the wiping actions, but installed test build again ok. I’ll leave it there for now.

[Chimpthepimp]

For mido everything is working, i couldn t test functionalities using simcard (sms, telephone, mms …) or ecloud but all the rest seems to be working, even the OTA-update which seems to downgrade the device back to nougat… I will upload the testplan hopefully tomorrow

[SuzieQ]

@Anonyme

As far as I know, the S7 & S7 Edge will be upgraded to Oreo first, and then it will probably be upgraded to Pie later.

But they aren’t officially supported by LineageOS on Oreo, Pie or Android 10, that’s why they are separated from other upgraded devices.

To read here in this forum like a prayer wheel that the Lineage for the S7 or S7 Edge does not provide an official build is pathetic, because other developers are obviously able to release continuously working ROMs for these “Premium” /e/Phones, e.g. => Builds for herolte.

Also @harvey186 has proven that his 9-pie build works - even very well
=> [UNOFFICIAL BUILD] Unofficial Pie Build for Samsung Galaxy S7 (herolte)
=> [UNOFFICIAL BUILD] Unofficial Pie Build for Samsung Galaxy S7 edge (hero2lte) – new version June24

Why does /e/ shut itself off from these facts?

[Anonyme]

@SuzieQ

other developers are obviously able to release continuously working ROMs for these “Premium” /e/Phones

Yes, and that’s what’s going to happen with /e/.

@SuzieQ

Also harvey186 has proven that his 9-pie build works

Yes and that’s why we know that the port to Pie will be possible.

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I agree that the set of upgrades is coming quite in late, sorry, mainly because the team was focused on other activities but now it’s on the top of the list.

[SuzieQ]

Again and again you can read about what is planned for the future, what might be sometime in the future. Many answers are like text modules from a manual for first level online supporters. But the present does not look very pleasant.

/e/ has so many plans - yes, interesting ones and valuable for the /e/ project - but the small /e/ team with a minimal financial budget gives the impression that his list of priorities is in a mess.

The latest plan to support as many devices as possible, and its only unofficial /e/ builds, I consider counterproductive.

Your Lists of UNOFFICIAL /e/ builds (Part 1) + (Part 2) are longer than the official /e/ list, with over 50 of them working more or less well with e-7-nougat ROMs. If /e/ is not able to update these 7-nougat devices, they should be removed immediately from the the official /e/ list. Quality rather than quantity would be a more serious strategy for /e/.

[blaes]

I would be grateful to those spending quite some time to provide unofficial builds to keep some devices available rather than anger and blame which doesnt help in any way.

It is far from perfect as you have noticed. It needs time and efforts. There is nothing ‘pathetic’ in hard work and yet not be able to achieve perfection.

If I wasnt building /e/-oreo for my phone, i would have to rely on lineage 14.1 (nougat) no longer updated. Is /e/ to blame for that ? i dont think so.

[SuzieQ]

@blaes, I respect your opinion, but nothing more!

On my S7 herolte, builds of 2020 from LOS 15.1, 16.0, and 17.1 works (Builds for herolte). I would love to use /e/ OS. But /e/ for herolte dev (nougat) - no thanks!

[Anonyme]

@SuzieQ

Again and again you can read about what is planned for the future, what might be sometime in the future. Many answers are like text modules from a manual for first level online supporters.

Indeed I didn’t give you a precise release date because I can’t garantee you the precise date will be the good one (and we don’t know it anyway). I know it’s frustrating to have “in the future” but… at least that’s true.
When we look back at what have been done each year, we can see that a lot of things evolve in a good way so don’t worry, you will have your upgrade in the next couple of months for sure (/e/ Nougat will be deprecated in Q4 2020 so the upgrade will come before this).

Anyway I just asked to the one in charge of this in order to have updated informations and he answered that almost everything is ready for an Oreo test build. Expect it in the following weeks (again, no precise date). For the stable version on phones sold by /e/, it will of course be later (via OTA) because it will need further testing.

@SuzieQ

/e/ has so many plans - yes, interesting ones and valuable for the /e/ project - but the small /e/ team with a minimal financial budget gives the impression that his list of priorities is in a mess.

I think that what has been achieved is a lot for a quite little team. They are well organized and we can’t say it’s a mess. Yes it could be better, like everything I guess, but things evolve quickly in a good way and that’s why I think this project won’t die tomorrow.

@SuzieQ

The latest plan to support as many devices as possible, and its only unofficial /e/ builds, I consider counterproductive.

This plan doesn’t impact the dev/maintainer team (see it more like a community plan), so it won’t change anything, except that the number of updated unofficial builds will be higher, and the list of requested devices will finally be listened to (yes it won’t be official builds but it’s much better than nothing).

@SuzieQ

If /e/ is not able to update these 7-nougat devices, they should be removed immediately from the the official /e/ list. Quality rather than quantity would be a more serious strategy for /e/.

I invite you to look at this topic, that’s precisely what will be done.

[blaes]

On LineageOS website, only lineage 14.1 is available for this device.
https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/herolte

Anyway if the roms from los-legacy.de you mentioned work well enough on your phone, maybe it can be used to build /e/ oreo pie versions, if they provide their sources.

edit :
Which they seem to do, I’ll have a look at it later today, and try to build pie version

los-legacy/local_manifests

[anon38440295]

I see the builds of LOS for this phone on XDA forum website, and version 16 is also stable!!!
In the meantime you can use this:

(https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7)

XDA:DevDB Information
LineageOS 16.0 for S7, ROM for the Samsung Galaxy S7

Contributors
Ivan_Meler
Source Code: https://github.com/ivanmeler/android…amsung_herolte

ROM OS Version: 9.x Pie
ROM Kernel: Linux 3.x

Version Information
Status: Stable
Current Stable Version: 1.2.5
Stable Release Date: 2020-07-12

Created 2018-09-14
Last Updated 2020-07-12

[SuzieQ]

@blaes

Which they seem to do, I’ll have a look at it later today, and try to build pie version

@blaes Thank you for also respecting my opinion.

@harvey186 as proven with his builds that he has access to stable sources. He left at least this data: manifests or local_manifests-hero-pie

[tomiknez]

@Chimpthepimp

For mido everything is working, i couldn t test functionalities using simcard (sms, telephone, mms …) or ecloud but all the rest seems to be working, even the OTA-update which seems to downgrade the device back to nougat… I will upload the testplan hopefully tomorrow

Hm, on my mido I have exactly a problem @chrisrg described:

@chrisrg

Test build OTA update failed to install on Oneplus 3T; twrp couldn’t handle the encryption and prompted a factory reset. That was a surprise!

So after the update is completed and phone reboot is performed, the phone wakes up and encryption error screen is shown with only “Reset phone” option available, and I’m not using encryption on my phone.
Build installed prior the update is the unofficial mido test update (e-0.9-p-2020070861902-test-mido.zip)

[Chimpthepimp]

That problem actually is due to the OTA update you are notified about is nougat and it probably is being made from a different branch… It shouldn t happen to downgrade via OTA in a normal usecase …

[tomiknez]

Sorry @Chimpthepimp, you are right. I just noticed it while manually initiating update download:

But, why is it so? Why is Nougat branch offered for Pie phone?

[Chimpthepimp]

I have no clue it was discussed a little bit in another thread already some days ago … But no further informations about it…

[tomiknez]

Thank you for a fast response @Chimpthepimp!