Week 03 : 2021: Development and Testing Updates

hi @Manoj, thanks for the regular updates.

Does this mean we will get eOS-0.13 (Android 10) for the above set of devices?
I am currently on samsung S9+ eOS.0.13 (Android 8) and should expect with the release of this update to get bumped to Android Q.

also, to the previous question, would we get OTA notification or need to manually download

The build being released for the New devices and the upgrade builds are v0.13
For the upgrade to Q it has to be manually done. OTA OS upgrade is not possible. I know this is extra work and developers are working on this but it will take time and a lot of testing.

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Hi @Manoj,

i still do not 100% get the point.
My current running Galaxy s9 with/e/ OS will not get an OTA update due to technical issues. However a sideload is possible? (Available probably next week I understand)
If yes, sorry for this beginners question, will all data on the phone need to be deleted first to avoid issues?

Thanks and beat regards,

The Galaxy S9 will need to be manually flashed to Q. This build will be v0.13
You have to take a backup of your data before the flash as the update will require a clean install - where you wipe all data from the device.
Subsequent builds on the phone will come OTA but the first build will have to be done manually.

@Manoj I and others will ask this question often. Maybe you can add a how-to?

@Manoj Hi, will version 0.13 be maintained and for how long?
Arnaud

Doesn’t this howto need an open Bootloader? (And opening the Bootloader wipes all data)
There is also an official upgrade instruction e.g. for FP3: https://doc.e.foundation/q-upgrade-fp3 (which involves of corse unlocking the bootloader and wiping all data)

Backing-up the data is pretty difficult nowadays without root and google: Perferences and data in apps is often stored at locations not accesible without root (as far as I know. If there is a good solution, I’m happy to learn about it). Same appolies to system data like saved networks, settings, Covid-19-Tracing,…

Thats all reasons why I hope an OTA-upgrade without data loss will come soon.

Counter question: Is there a phone supported by /e/ with a re-locked bootloader?

standard installation instructions for FP3 are with locked bootloader at the end. See also the link for the upupgrade instructions step 4.

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Okay, fine. That had slipped my mind. If it really works, that’s a first-class security feature. However, I had already read something to the contrary.

At the time of Dec. 2019, when the HowTo quoted above was written, the FP3 was not yet being discussed at /e/. This shows that paper is patient (just like what is written on websites).

The “It exists” linked by @piero is well-intentioned but unfortunately placed in relation to the FP3 with closed bootloader. The FP3 is different from the other /e/ phones in several respects.

What du you mean, @SuzieQ. In what respect is the FP3 different?

The Fairphone 3 is modular and therefore more durable and sustainable, made of conflict-free materials. According to Fairphone, it pays attention to the transparent origin of gold, tungsten, tin and cobalt in the smartphone, as well as to good (better) working conditions. Visually, the FP3 is not a highlight for me.

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Any update on the release and documentation of the upgrades? :smiley:

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These are official builds and will be available and supported till the next build comes along. In this case it will be v0.14 which should come in 2-3 weeks time.

Actually I also need an answer to this question. The last update I got before signing off yesterday was that these upgrade builds + documentation was being published. Now I see it has not gone out :frowning:
Also we have hit the weekend. Let me check what happened and get back.
The problem with such delays is we have a list for next week and this will create quite a backlog.
As i mentioned let me check and get back.

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Thanks again :slight_smile:
Ive been hitting refresh on my side every hour. Was conflicted on following up again on the forum given its the weekend.
But that’s the best time to mess around with updating the device, specially if its going to be a manual process

Oh. Ok. I thought you meant technically, the installation of /e/ concerning. But yes, FP is awesome :slight_smile:

Technically, installing /e/ OS on the FP3 is like installing a GSI*.IMG CustomROM with FASTBOOT commands - quite unlike the other /e/ OS ROM*.ZIPs and therefore a little more complex.

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but it’s not too complicated. You’ll have to follow this TUTORIAL step by step (the terminal commands can be copied 1:1) and the FP3 will start /e/ in less than 10 Minutes.
EDIT - if you are not VERY concerned about security, skip the last step where the bootloader is locked. It will make things easier when you change your mind in the future. :wink:

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Hi @frank.bxl,

I actually have installed /e/ already on my FP3. The question was not about my ability to install it, but on the nature of the difference between the phones.

Many greetings
-Hendrik

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